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  • May 26, 2016 at 12:51 am #317132
    Avatarzohaib03
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    Hi Mike. I’m having difficulty with this EPS question.

    Waffle had share capital of $7.5 million in 50c equity shares at 1 october 2006. On 1 january 2007 it made an issue of 4 million shares at full market price immediately followed by a 1 for 3 bonus issue.
    The financial statements at 30 september 2007 showed a profit for the year of $12 milllion.
    What was EPS for the year?

    May 26, 2016 at 12:53 am #317133
    Avatarzohaib03
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    We only have to multiply the bonus fraction (4/3) with the October shares and not with the January ones because the bonus issue was immediately after that.
    Am i right sir? Please guide me. Thanks very much.

    May 26, 2016 at 4:58 am #317142
    AvatarMikeLittle
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    No, you’re wrong, sorry

    Look at “the rules” in the course notes

    Rule 1 “multiply ALL prior periods ….”

    It’s not the time element that is important – think about it

    You’re suggesting that “because the bonus issue was immediately after that.” we don’t need to multiply

    But those January shares were in issue when the bonus issue was declared so those January shares would qualify to receive the 1 extra for every 3 held

    If it hadn’t been “immediately after that.” what time gap would you expect to be necessary before you would start to think….

    “Maybe I should multiply these by the bonus fraction because it’s now been 3 months” or possibly

    “…..it’s now been a month”

    or what about “….it’s now been 3 weeks”

    Do you see what I’m getting at

    Now try the question again and, if you’re still struggling, come back to me

    May 26, 2016 at 11:08 pm #317369
    Avatarzohaib03
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    Is this right Mike?
    Shares period fraction Wanes
    1 oct 2006 15,000,000 3/12 4/3 5,000,000
    1 jan 2007 19,000,000 9/12 4/3 19,000,000
    1 jan 2007 25,333,333 9/12 19,000,000
    ………………
    43,000,000

    EPS= 12,000,000 / 43,000,000 = 28c

    But the answer at the back is 50c. =(

    May 26, 2016 at 11:12 pm #317370
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    Think about the 19 million shares in issue after that 4 million issued at full price

    These 19 million get a bonus of 1 for 3

    So for how long were there EXACTLY 19 million shares in issue?

    Think about this!

    Now, let me know what your answer is

    May 27, 2016 at 2:34 am #317379
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    So for how long were there EXACTLY 19 million shares in issue?

    Is it zero ???
    And only = 19,000 * 4/3

    May 27, 2016 at 5:56 am #317394
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    Yes, it’s no time at all. The bonus shares were issued immediately after that 4,000,000 shares were issued at full price so the two lines in the table are:

    1.10.06 15,000,000 3/12 4/3 5,000,000
    1. 1.07 19,000,000 .0000001/12 4/3 –
    1. 1.07 25,333,333 9/12 19,000,000

    Total weighted average 24,000,000

    OK?

    May 28, 2016 at 10:59 pm #317841
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    Yes got it sir. Thankyou so much =)

    May 29, 2016 at 7:09 am #317859
    AvatarMikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    May 30, 2016 at 4:27 am #318008
    Avatarrobymano
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    Hi Mike
    there is this MCQ in the. June 2015 exams question number 13 i really want To understand how the depreciation charge was computed
    Thanks

    May 30, 2016 at 6:09 am #318029
    AvatarMikeLittle
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    For a $12,000 asset with a 20 year life, depreciation is $12,000/ 20 = $600 per annum

    In the year of revaluation, there is depreciation of 6 months before that revaluation takes place so that accounts for a further $300 depreciation

    The asset now has a carrying value of:

    $12,000 – ($3,600 + $300) = $8,100

    It is revalued by $2,700 to $10,800 and depreciated over its remaining useful life

    Before the revaluation, the asset had been depreciated for 6 years ($3,600 at the rate of $600 per year)

    After revaluation, it has been depreciated for 6.5 years so it has a remaining useful life of 13.5 years (20 years original estimate – 6.5 years up to date of revaluation)

    For the second 6 months of the year depreciation will be $10,800 / 13.5 for a full year and half that amount for the 6 months that we’re looking at

    So $10,800 / 13.5 = $800 and half that amount is $400

    Total depreciation for the year is therefore $300 + $400 = $700 = answer C

    OK?

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