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help in non current assets and trial balance

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  • This topic has 1 reply, 2 voices, and was last updated 14 years ago by hilariousastal.
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  • July 16, 2010 at 4:38 pm #44878
    soniasameersohail
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    please help me understand the questions..their answers have somewhat confused me…

    non current assets[/b]

    at 30th september 20X2, the following balances existed ib the records of lambda

    plant and equipment cost 860000
    accumulated depreciation 397000

    during the year ended 30th september 20X3, plant with a written down value of 37000 was sold for 49000.the plant had originally cost 80000.plant purchased during the year cost 180000..it is the companys policy to charge full years depreciation in the year of aquisition and none in the year of sale, using a rate of 10 % on the straight line basis..
    what net amount should appear in lambdas statemnet of financial position at 3oth september 20X3 for plant and equipment?
    A) $563000
    🙂 $467000
    C) $510000
    D) $606000

    the answer to this is C
    and the explanation is

    COST ACC.DEPRECIATION CARRYING VALU
    $000 $000 $000
    opening balance 860 397
    disposal (80) (43)
    purchase 180



    354
    960
    _____
    depreciation 10% 96
    ____
    450
    _____
    CV 960-450 510

    now my question is that y did they calculate depreciation over the total 960000..y didnt they calculate it seperately on every asset..i mean they could have calculated the depreciation on 860000 first and then subtracted that 86000 depreciation from 860000 and then subtracted 37000 from (860000-86000) as 37000 is the written down value of the asset sold..then they could have added 180000 to this value and subtracted depreciation on 1800000…

    now another question is on trial balance..the question is
    the following is the extract of jims trial balance as at 31st december 20×7

    dr cr
    recievables 29600
    all. for recievables 3100
    irrecoverable debts 1600
    (i) additional irrecoverable debts of 3000 were discovered at the year end
    (ii) it has been decided to make an allowance for recievables of 10% on the adjusted recievables at the year end
    the total bad debt expense (irrecoverable and allowance) for the year ended 31st december 20X7 and the closing net recievables balance as at 31st december 20X7 will be

    bad debt net recievables
    a) 4160 23940
    b) 5040 23940
    c) 2560 21830
    d) 4000 19800

    the answer for this is A

    irrecoverable debts 1600+3000 4600
    decrease in allowance (10% of 29600-3000) (440)
    ______
    total bad debt expense 4160
    ______

    recievables (29600 – 3000) 26600
    less allowance for rec. (2660)


    net closing recievables 23940

    this is the answer from the book..but according to me..they should have done this

    29600- (3000+1600)= 25000 which is the adjusted recievables at the year end..now allowance for deoreciation is 10% of 25000= 2500…so bad debts expense is 1600 + 3000 – decrease in allowance ( 600)= 4000
    and net recievables = 29600-(3000+1600) i.e 25000 + 600=25600..
    so i think that they shouldve included 1600 figure in every calculation..how wud v know that v dnt have to subtract 1600 from the recievables

    now please help me understand bth the questions

    July 17, 2010 at 8:26 am #65327
    hilariousastal
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    hi!
    i would only reply to your second question because i couldn’t get your first question i can understand the question but couldn’t understand your supposition (yours logic of solving the question ) .As for the second one u would know that u don’t have to include that `1600` figure by the fact that it has already been included in trial balance and adjusted that is why it is appearing in T.B..right…the only figure of bad debt expenses that have not been adjusted are those that have arisen at the year end ….
    hope this helps!!

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