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HEDRA COSFP

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  • May 31, 2017 at 3:28 pm #389254
    kengara
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    Hi DEar tutor, i just need to be paid attention the below question whether i understood it correctly or not
    Thanks in advance

    Hedra
    Under SofP
    Non-current asset section
    Investments-245
    Under non-current liability of both company 50

    Note.
    Immediate cash pay 195
    Salvador accepted a % 50 million 8% loan from Hedra at the date of its acquistion

    Debit cash-195
    credit investment-195

    investment(245-195=50

    the rest 50 million is the loan’s investment 50 is not it?

    is this correct?
    debit liability-50
    credit investment-50

    Under non current liabilty
    50-50=0 intra group trading?
    I think i understood it correctly?

    May 31, 2017 at 5:59 pm #389287
    MikeLittle
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    “Debit cash-195
    credit investment-195”

    Please think carefully about this entry! I suggest that this is probably not correct

    The only way that this could be correct is if an entity that held an investment at cost of $195 now sold it for $195 and, if that’s the case, the entity needs seriously to review its investment policy!

    “is this correct?
    debit liability-50
    credit investment-50”

    I cannot for the life of me work out the narrative that could fit this journal entry – unless … how about this?

    The entity owed money and held an investment and the lender agreed to take that investment as part payment of the debt that was owed. That would do it!

    Ah! Is this you putting journal entries to a consolidation adjustment?

    It’s not necessary!

    When you come to the Investment line, it’s simply $245 – $50 = $195 and when you come to the Loan line, it’s simply $50 – $50 = $Nil

    Do NOT put these into journals – they won’t be journalised in real life … they are simply additions / subtractions from a line in the preparation of the financial statements

    “Under non current liabilty
    50-50=0 intra group trading?”

    What has intra-group trading got to do with the cancellation of an intra-group loan loan

    OK?

    May 31, 2017 at 9:24 pm #389339
    kengara
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    I understood any loan note investment and immediate cash pay has to be deducted from Investment automatically such as the example above 245-195-50

    June 1, 2017 at 7:42 am #389379
    MikeLittle
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    It’s not an automatic exercise – if the Loan Note asset is shown separately and not included within the investment figure, then no deduction is necessary

    Besides, if this is what you were trying to achieve with:

    “is this correct?
    debit liability-50
    credit investment-50”

    then it’s still wrong and should be:

    Dr Loan Note asset 50 (not debit liability)
    Cr Investment 50

    Easy though it might appear, there is no way that you can reduce this exercise to automatic status!

    “I understood any loan note investment and immediate cash pay has to be deducted from Investment automatically”

    will not always be applicable

    Sorry 🙁

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