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HAVANNAH DEC 2013 QUESTION 2 (B)

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • October 28, 2014 at 10:15 am #206369
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    In May 20X3, Havanna decided to sell one of its regional business divisions through a mixed asset and share deal. The decision to sell the division at a price of $40 million was made public in November 20X3 and gained shareholder approval in December 20X3. It was decided that the payment of any agreed sale price could be deferred until 30 November 20X5. The business division was presented as a disposal group in the
    statement of financial position as at 30 November 20X3. At the initial classification of the division as held for sale, its net carrying amount was $90 million. In writing down the disposal group’s carrying amount, Havanna accounted for an impairment loss of $30 million which represented the difference between the carrying amount and value of the assets measured in accordance with applicable International Financial
    Reporting Standards (IFRS). In the financial statements at 30 November 20X3, Havanna showed the following costs as provisions relating to the continuing operations. These costs were related to the business division being sold and were as follows.
    (i) A loss relating to a potential write-off of a trade receivable owed by Cuba Sport, which had gone into liquidation. Cuba Sport had sold the goods to a third party and the division had guaranteed the receipt of the sale proceeds to the Head Office of Havanna.
    (ii) An expense relating to the discounting of the long-term receivable on the fixed amount of the sale price of the disposal group
    (iii) A provision was charged which related to the expected transaction costs of the sale including legal advice and lawyer fees.
    The directors wish to know how to treat the above transactions. (9 marks)

    The reference is in the title to this post. I have a particular problem with the second half of this question – regarding the costs included in the provisions.

    Regarding (i) above about the write off of Cuba Sport receivable, the answer from my BPP kit is as follows:

    The trade receivable from Cuba Sports should have been tested for impairment immediately before classification of the division as held for sale. An impairment loss for the amount of the trade receivable should have been recognised and would have reduced the carrying amount of the division on the initial classification as held for sale.In addition, the division has guaranteed the sale proceeds to Havanna’s Head Office, so as the amount owing has not been collected a refund would be needed, and the sales price of the division(and hence the fair value less costs to sell) would need to be adjusted to reflect the amount of the potential refund.

    I don’t understand the guarantee of the sale proceeds and how this leads to a refund. What’s this refund thing? And how does this affect the fair value less costs to sell, why does the answer say “… would need to be adjusted to reflect the amount of the potential refund” How does the refund (and refund by whom to whom) take part in the fair value less costs to sell? Will be get a lower selling price because of the refund?

    Also regarding (ii) above, the answer says “The discounting expense for the sales price of the disposal group reflects the fact that payment is deferred until 30 November 20X5. This discount should not have been recognised in continuing operations, but should have been taken into account in calculating the fair value less costs to sell of the disposal group.”

    How is the cost of discounting a selling costs? Please explain this to me. I thought the discount is unwinded in the P&L account each year, so how does it feature in the fair value less costs to sell?

    Thanks,

    ME…

    October 30, 2014 at 4:36 pm #206870
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    Hi Mike,

    Should I wait for a few more days, please let me know when I should check back. Thanks,.

    October 31, 2014 at 7:11 am #206924
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    Hi, sorry, I seem to have overlooked your post. I’ll try to get to it today

    November 1, 2014 at 3:00 pm #207103
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    “I don’t understand the guarantee of the sale proceeds and how this leads to a refund. What’s this refund thing? And how does this affect the fair value less costs to sell, why does the answer say “… would need to be adjusted to reflect the amount of the potential refund” How does the refund (and refund by whom to whom) take part in the fair value less costs to sell? Will be get a lower selling price because of the refund?”

    The division is being sold to a potential buyer. The company has guaranteed that the receivable WILL be received. Otherwise, if not received, the company will repay the buyer some of the purchase price paid to buy the division. That’s the refund (of part of the purchase price to buy the division)

    “Also regarding (ii) above, the answer says “The discounting expense for the sales price of the disposal group reflects the fact that payment is deferred until 30 November 20X5. This discount should not have been recognised in continuing operations, but should have been taken into account in calculating the fair value less costs to sell of the disposal group.”

    How is the cost of discounting a selling costs? Please explain this to me. I thought the discount is unwinded in the P&L account each year, so how does it feature in the fair value less costs to sell?”

    The discounting has been taken into account to determine the present value of the purchase price receivable by Havanna in 2 years’ time. This is not something to charge to PorL. This is a cost of selling the division and should have been treated as part of the fair value calculations in arriving at the fair value of the disposal group

    Is that ok for you (sorry for the delay)

    November 7, 2014 at 3:30 pm #208245
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    hi Mike,

    Could it be argued that the two year time between the may mean that they are actually winding down operations?

    November 7, 2014 at 4:41 pm #208264
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    Not really – if I sell you something and agree to defer payment, the sale happens today and the item is yours. However, I don’t expect you to pay me for another two years, but it’s still yours

    If you choose to wind it down, that’s your decision. But you still owe me the agreed selling price

    Is that clear?

    November 12, 2014 at 8:15 pm #209486
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    got it.

    thanks Mike.

    November 16, 2014 at 9:53 pm #210556
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    You’re welcome

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