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Referencing – Rules, Queries, Harvard etc.

Forums › OBU Forums › Referencing – Rules, Queries, Harvard etc.

  • This topic has 629 replies, 136 voices, and was last updated 5 years ago by 2244167amna.
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  • April 14, 2016 at 7:23 am #310065
    trephena
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    @MahinAdnan
    1. Should always be (Family name, year) in text and Family name, Initial(s) + (year) in list – Although you can use full first name in the list instead of the initial. The only time you would normally put a full first name in the text would be to distinguish where you are using two authors with the same Family name and the same first initial and the work is the same year e.g. (Peter Brown, 2015) in the text and Brown, Peter (2015) in the list because you are also citing the work of Paul Brown 2015. This then shows which citation belongs to which.

    2. Use the accounting year for annual reports. So a company with a year end 31st December which publishes its accounts in March 2016 would be (XYZ, 2015). However for normal authors’ published work it is always year of publish.

    April 14, 2016 at 7:37 am #310066
    trephena
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    @dewan – those look right. Remember the logic: a document should only enter the ref list once and only once, so where you are referring to different parts of it in your text you put in the page number. The URL is the one to the general document used in the list to help the reader to locate the citation (they already have the page number info from the text). Where there is only one reference to the document in your entire work you may choose either to put the page number in the text, or the list alone, or both -the important thing being that the reader can locate what is being referred to with precision and you do not have unnecessary repetitions of the same document in the list.

    April 14, 2016 at 8:42 am #310081
    dewan
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    Thank you Trephena.

    May 7, 2016 at 7:04 pm #314046
    fathima
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    HI

    In referencing webpages, starting with citing text…for instance…https://opentuition.com/forum/obu-forums/…in order to cite it can i use opentuition.com in text and then when referencing use opentution.com (n.d), Referencing, Available at: https://opentuition.com/forum/obu-forums/ Accessed on (12th February 2016)

    Pls help

    May 7, 2016 at 7:49 pm #314049
    Handsome
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    why are you doing manually when there is option to insert reference in MS word? Just click on reference tab in your MS word and select Harvard from style and use their option to insert reference.

    It will create like this:

    (Opentution, n.d.)

    Reference list
    Opentution, n.d. Opentution. [Online]
    Available at: https://opentuition.com/forum/obu-forums/
    [Accessed 2 April 2016].

    May 14, 2016 at 11:25 am #315052
    Waqas
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    Hello everyone,

    I am resubmitting my OBU RAP for the Period 32 on Topic 8 as I failed in last submission due to referencing. One of the reasons given for insufficient referencing was that I did provide reference for the Graphs (for Financial Ratio Analysis) that I included in my research report. Here is what one of the reasons given for my failure, “Graphs should be referenced to the sources, and each time a source is used it should be referenced to the source”.

    However, I created these graphs in the Appendices file in Excel sheet which I submitted as part of my RAP to the OBU. The graphs were created in the Excel sheet in the Appendices file which included Company’s financial statements, Ratios and the graphs. My question is how do I reference the graph when including it in my Research Report as part of the Financial Analysis. I mean what source should I give when referencing graphs?

    Please reply urgently!

    Regards,
    Waqas Ahmed

    May 15, 2016 at 7:45 am #315128
    Handsome
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    @Waqas graphs are not your property, you have created on the bases of financial statements, that’s why examiner wants you to refer to the original source of graph.. so refer financial statement under your graph like

    source: ABC FY12:F14; XYZ FY 12:FY14

    We provide Appendices to examiner or they required us to provide Appendices so they can have quick view of company’s financial statement and their time has been saved. while Appendices also help examiner to examine your IT skills

    Probably it has been suggested that dont refer appendices in your RAP until you have did something by your own.. but yes at the meantime i have read that we suppose to refer appendices in RAP for extra working.. For example, your company’s FS did not m entioned OPM, but you have done its working in Appendices then you will mentioned this because you own this information not the company.

    This is what i know, wait for moderators comments

    May 15, 2016 at 3:52 pm #315183
    Waqas
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    @Handsome Thanks for your reply. What is OPM and where am I supposed to refer in my RR?

    May 15, 2016 at 4:49 pm #315193
    trephena
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    Operating profit margin

    May 15, 2016 at 6:14 pm #315209
    Handsome
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    @waqaas1 said:

    @Handsome
    Thanks for your reply. What is OPM and where am I supposed to refer in my RR?

    i have only mentioned OPM as example, you dont need to mention it

    May 16, 2016 at 6:36 pm #315353
    Waqas
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    Thanks and you are sure about the format you mentioned for referencing graphs? Is it the right format?

    May 19, 2016 at 5:21 am #315719
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    @waqaas1 said:
    Thanks and you are sure about the format you mentioned for referencing graphs? Is it the right format?

    This is how i did and my mentor approved

    you should asked from your mentor too, as you have paid him fee :p

    May 23, 2016 at 5:38 am #316508
    blamoses
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    trephena thanks for a lot for advices on referencing swot in part 3 of rr but I want to know whether it is also necessary to do referencing in the same in part 2 when defining and stating limitations.

    May 23, 2016 at 4:05 pm #316615
    Anonymous
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    Hi, I recently submitted my RAP (Topic-8) Period 32. I forgot to add names of Annual reports I used at the end of my reference list. I want very worried now. Would it affect my result?

    Kindly reply.

    May 23, 2016 at 11:11 pm #316710
    trephena
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    You will have set out certain models and limitations of your business techniques and these should be referenced. No doubt you will be using ideas here that you have read elsewhere and this triggers the requirement that this information should be referenced.

    May 23, 2016 at 11:16 pm #316711
    trephena
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    If the rest of your referencing is good then a marker would probably overlook this omission. However if you have missed other references and not adhered to the basic Golden rules (as set out in our OT Ultimate Guide to Referencing) then your marker is likely to pick up on this.

    August 16, 2016 at 10:12 pm #333478
    Bolage
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    Dear trephena,
    I use APA referencing (I guess no problem with that, Harvard style is just recommended, isn’t is?), and I have problems with in-text referencing figures.

    1. If I use for instance a chart, do I need to have the permission of the author to reproduce it? I would like to have a consistence style in my RAP and reproduce all the figures I use. Or I must use a snapshot and use the original chart?

    2. How to reference a figure which was based on a collection of webpages? I made a chart from 42 webpages (All are from the same website, but different pages, new article per month), but referencing all in-text would look funny. Can I just refer to an appendix under the figure, and list the webpages there? How to deal with this in the “References” section? I hope I don’t need to create separate references for all of them.

    Thanks a lot!

    September 23, 2016 at 2:51 am #341425
    Bolage
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    Could anyone help please? I still wondering about my questions above.
    Cheers!

    September 23, 2016 at 2:54 pm #341455
    LearningLuminarium
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    @bolage –

    1) yes, OBU has ever replied that APA is fine although their preference is Harvard Ref.

    2) you do not need the permission of the author to reproduce the chart. When you say reproduce, I am assuming you mean you are going to the base source and re-creating the chart all by yourself.
    In that case, you would need to reference the base sources though.

    3) for multiple sources, I hope you find this link helpful. https://www.lib.sfu.ca/help/cite-write/citation-style-guides/apa/tables-figures

    42 is a lot though and I usually advise my students to reference the critical sources and it will be like “x, y, z and 39 other sources”

    In your list of references, you would place all 42 in full APA format though.

    All the best!
    The Learning Luminarium

    September 24, 2016 at 6:32 am #341533
    maham0604
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    Hello,
    I want to ask question regarding referencing
    Firstly, if I use the same website but more than one articles from that website how I am supposed to cite that? I did read the information pack but I am still unsure how to cite these.

    Secondly, for book references I used my ACCA text books but it does not have any authors mentioned. how should I cite that? I’m using BPP textbook.

    thanks

    September 24, 2016 at 7:59 am #341537
    trephena
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    Please read my article (especially the Golden Rules) on Referencing on our homepage http://www.opentuition.com/obu

    Research using Google Scholar using key words from the study text

    September 24, 2016 at 1:39 pm #341563
    maham0604
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    Thanks Trephena for the quick response

    I did read the articles on the homepage
    however I am still confused how to cite the source

    for example, if I used 3 definitions of ratios from Investopedia
    I should put 3 references but with every reference with the year of the website, I should add a, b and c ?

    this is what I understood from the explanation provided in the articles as well as the obu information pack

    Your help is really appreciated

    September 29, 2016 at 2:53 pm #342059
    maham0604
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    Thanks Trephena for the quick response

    I did read the articles on the homepage
    however I am still confused how to cite the source

    for example, if I used 3 definitions of ratios from Investopedia
    I should put 3 references but with every reference with the year of the website, I should add a, b and c ?

    this is what I understood from the explanation provided in the articles as well as the obu information pack

    Your help is really appreciated

    September 30, 2016 at 9:55 am #342107
    trephena
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    @maham0604 – Thank you for your enquiry – I have been away on holiday.

    If you read all parts of my article on Referencing you should have noted that markers take a dim view of Wikipedia and Investopedia so you are advised to find better sources to cite from. In the Referencing FAQs (on our OBU homepage) I warn against their use (see Q7 – and also Q6 about how much detail to include where for online sources). Kaplan online provide definitions so you are advised to consider this as a better common source https://kfknowledgebank.kaplan.co.uk/KFKB/Wiki%20Pages/Profitability%20Analysis.aspx
    As my Golden Rule No.4 sets out: each different document requires a designator and in this respect separate webpages are separate documents so require the appendages a, b, c etc. and individual listing in your reference list

    May I remind students that I am not an employee of Open Tuition and my time on here is entirely voluntary, therefore you will have to have patience at times as I may be involved in my own work projects or be busy in my personal life 🙂 – Trephena

    October 14, 2016 at 4:07 pm #343286
    eyre
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    Hi Trephena,

    Just making sure- when referencing different webpages from the same website, would my in-text citation be (website.com, 2016a) and then would my reference list also show 2016a- as the year of publication?

    Thanks

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