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  • This topic has 9 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • May 4, 2018 at 1:25 am #450006
    myacca1990
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    On 1st January 20X1, Sly received £2m from the local government
    on the condition that they employ at least 100 staff each year for the
    next 4 years. On this date, it was virtually certain that Sly would meet
    these requirements. However, due to an economic downturn and
    reduced consumer demand, after one year, Sly no longer needed to
    employ anymore staff and the conditions of the grant required full
    repayment.
    What should be recorded in the financial statements?
    A Reduce deferred income balance by $1,500,000
    B Reduce deferred income by $1,500,000 and recognise a loss
    in the financial statements of $500,000
    C Reduce deferred income by $2,000,000
    D Reduce deferred income by $2,000,000 and a gain in the
    financial statements of $500,000

    I think the correct answer should be Option B because the repayment of $2m was in full but the expenses of year had already occurred so the losses should be accounted for.Please correct me if i am wrong.

    May 4, 2018 at 6:02 am #450020
    MikeLittle
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    I believe that actual dates are important here. Has Sly already credited the first year’s element to the first year’s profit or loss … and then decided that no more employees were necessary so would have to repay the full amount?

    If that’s what you have in mind the, yes, it looks like option B

    But if those first year’s figures are still in the preparation stage then it looks like option C would be the correct choice

    Do we know the relevant facts?

    May 4, 2018 at 10:00 am #450048
    myacca1990
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    @mikelittle said:
    I believe that actual dates are important here. Has Sly already credited the first year’s element to the first year’s profit or loss … and then decided that no more employees were necessary so would have to repay the full amount?

    If that’s what you have in mind the, yes, it looks like option B

    But if those first year’s figures are still in the preparation stage then it looks like option C would be the correct choice

    Do we know the relevant facts?

    I think when the examiner used the word “after one year” he meant the first year has been accounted for.Or else Kaplan published a vague question.

    May 4, 2018 at 3:10 pm #450095
    MikeLittle
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    If it means “after the first year has been accounted for” then I would agree

    But that cannot be correct if you re-consider the wording of the options and particularly option B

    “A Reduce deferred income balance by $1,500,000
    B Reduce deferred income by $1,500,000 and recognise a loss in the financial statements of $500,000
    C Reduce deferred income by $2,000,000
    D Reduce deferred income by $2,000,000 and a gain in the financial statements of $500,000”

    It cannot be option A because, if we have already recognised the first $500,000 as income, then we must now undo it

    It cannot be option B because that would indicate that we are looking at the preparation of financial statements for the year ended 31 December, 20X2 but I didn’t get that impression from your post

    It could be option C because, if we’re still in the process of preparing the financial statements for the year ended 31 December, 20X1, then we now have the knowledge that the grant is to be repaid in full so Dr Deferred Income $2,000,000 and Cr Grant Repayment Account $2,000,000

    It cannot be option D because … well, because option D is stupid!

    I’m looking seriously at option C – what does the Kaplan answer say?

    May 4, 2018 at 7:21 pm #450118
    myacca1990
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    Kaplan published a wrong answer for this question. I am sure that answer was for some other question the figures were irrelevant.Well god definitely knows what’s the right answer:)

    May 5, 2018 at 6:04 am #450160
    MikeLittle
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    But you haven’t told me what Kaplan published!

    May 5, 2018 at 6:24 am #450161
    myacca1990
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    You want me to post that wrong irrelevant answer for some other question here?

    May 5, 2018 at 6:27 am #450162
    MikeLittle
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    I would like to know what Kaplan has said for the answer – it could be just you that thinks that their answer is for a different question – please allow me to make up my own mind

    Thanks

    May 5, 2018 at 1:32 pm #450216
    myacca1990
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    The answer is $40,000
    $
    Cost 1 April 20X6 50,000
    20% depreciation (10,000)
    –––––––
    Carrying amount 31 March 20X7 40,000
    20% depreciation (8,000)
    –––––––
    Carrying amount 31 March 20X8 32,000
    Disposal carrying amount ($25,000 × 80% × 80%) (16,000)
    –––––––
    Carrying amount after disposal 16,000
    Purchase 34,000
    –––––––
    50,000
    20% depreciation (10,000)
    –––––––
    Carrying amount at 31 March 20X9 40,000
    –––––––

    May 5, 2018 at 5:34 pm #450233
    MikeLittle
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    Thanks for this … I think I have to agree with your assessment that the Kaplan answer is incorrect

    Thanks again

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