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Goodwill on consolidation

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  • This topic has 5 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • June 4, 2016 at 6:49 pm #319397
    Bronwyn
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    Hi Mike,

    Bit of a long shot but if we got negative goodwill how do we account for it on consolidation? Do we include it on w2?

    Thank you in advance
    Bronwyn

    June 4, 2016 at 6:53 pm #319401
    Bronwyn
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    Hi Mike,

    Think you’ve just answered this below, someone else was stuck on it too! Thank you and yes it’s posted to w2 as it affects the post acq profits!

    Thank you

    June 4, 2016 at 7:01 pm #319416
    MikeLittle
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    Negative goodwill is derived as the balancing figure (the difference between total “worth” of the entity at the date of acquisition and the fair value of the subsidiary’s net assets)

    If the net assets exceed the cost of acquisition + the value attributable to the nci, negative goodwill is the result

    And negative goodwill is credited to consolidated retained earnings at the first opportunity

    OK?

    June 4, 2016 at 7:14 pm #319434
    Bronwyn
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    Totally understand this but my working 2 was wrong compared to the answer I’ve got the below:

    At acquisition At reporting date
    SC. 20000. 20000
    RE. 18000. 24000

    FV Adj.
    Pl (2000). (2000)
    G 12000. 12000
    Inv. 1000. 900
    Depr. 500
    Depr. (1200)
    Gwill. (3000)

    49000. 51200. Post acqui profit 2200 ans is 3200

    Where am I going wrong?

    June 4, 2016 at 7:59 pm #319443
    Bronwyn
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    Ahhhhh pennies dropped thank you I totally understand it! No need for net assets working because their is negative goodwill! Marvellous sorry for being daft lol thank you again

    June 5, 2016 at 5:56 am #319482
    MikeLittle
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    Just the “at reporting date” figures is surely enough!

    6,000 difference in booked retained earnings
    900 investment (?) increase
    500 depreciation add back
    (1,200) additional depreciation
    (3,000) write-off of goodwill

    3,200 post acquisition retained

    HOWEVER!!!! This 3,000 goodwill figure is NOT negative goodwill

    If it were negative goodwill, it would have been added to the 6,000 difference in retained earnings

    It would effectively be treated as an extra profit (though I mustn’t use that word “profit” because it isn’t a profit (but between you and me and no-one else, it’s exactly like a profit!))

    The difference between your $2,200 and the correct $3,200 is that $1,000 fair value adjustment to the investments(?) at acquisition date

    I believe that you’ve made two errors

    1) that’s not negative goodwill

    2) you have included the $1,000 adjustment in your calculation of today’s retained earnings

    OK?

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