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Goodwill and time apportionment

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  • May 27, 2014 at 5:27 pm #171199
    maes
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    Hi,

    Can I just confirm, that we do not time apportion the pre-acquisition reserves when we are calculating goodwill?

    I know that we time apportion profit/retained earnings when calculating goodwill and consolidated reserves.

    Thanks

    May 27, 2014 at 8:31 pm #171271
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    Your question is confusing! However, let me try to answer the question that I think you are asking.

    In a mid-year acquisition consolidation, we need to time-apportion the subsidiary’s results for this year (the year of acquisition)

    But the retained earnings as at the start of this year of acquisition are (by definition) entirely pre-acquisition

    Try it on a time line:-

    Start at “time zero”, draw a line to “start of this year”, draw a line to “end of this year”. Half way through this last line, put a break for pre- and post-acquisition

    Above the line from time zero to start of this year, put the figure 85,000

    Above the pre-acq part of the line for this year put 7,000 and for the post-acq part put 8,000

    That’s the line for a subsidiary that has 100,000 in retained earnings of which 15,000 was earned this year, the year of acquisition. Of that 15,000, 7,000 was earned pre-acquisition and 8,000 post-acquisition.

    The pre-acquisition retained earnings were therefore 85,000 + 7,000 = 92,000 and post-acquisition was 8,000

    Does that make it clearer?

    May 28, 2014 at 12:28 pm #171397
    maes
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    Yes that is clear, apologies I just realised the second part of my question didn’t make much sense.

    So for example, when doing working 1 – group structure, in the figures you have given above, the pre-acquisition reserves would be 92.000 for the subsidiary.

    With regards for the goodwill, this 92,000 will deducted from the total consideration when we are deducting the FV net assets at date of aquisition?

    Thanks

    May 28, 2014 at 7:11 pm #171510
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    Yes …. except that, doing a consolidation question “my way” working W1 is always the group structure.

    Working W2 is goodwill and, when deducting FV of SNA @ DOA, I would show (using the illustrative figures from my earlier post)
    Shares X
    Retained earnings brought forward 85,000
    Retained earnings (say) 5 months 7,000
    Fair value adjustments X

    OK

    May 28, 2014 at 9:01 pm #171541
    maes
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    Yes that makes perfect sense, thank you

    May 29, 2014 at 8:10 am #171601
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    You’re welcome

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