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FX translations in Groups

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  • This topic has 5 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 1 month ago by Stephen Widberg.
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  • March 22, 2025 at 6:39 pm #716308
    Dansa
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    Hi tutors

    When we have a groups of foreign entities let’s suppose that the foreign subsidiary trades with the parent (currency GBP) and translate its trade payable (in GBP) with the parent in its Trial balance from GBP to USD with fx gains and losses in their p&l

    Now when the parent (which currency is GBP) consolidates the foreign subsidiary, it would take the trial balance of the subsidiary (which will have included the trade payable translated from GBP to USD plus the fx gain and loss) and will translate the foreign investment to GBP where the FX gain/loss will go to other comprehensive income. question is…

    Is this correct to covert twice? 1- the payable from GBP to USD in the foreign subsidiary books and then back from USD to GBP when the parent translate the trial balance (which includes the payable but now in USD) of the foreign subsidiary

    hope it is clear enough
    thanks
    Dan

    March 24, 2025 at 1:17 pm #716337
    Stephen Widberg
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    Your understanding is perfect.

    Sub has a foreign transaction – fx difference on the payable in its P&L

    Then Parent translates all of assets and liabilities (including the payable) of sub ; fx difference in OCI

    Finally inter-company balances will cancel out (well, hopefully 🙂 )

    March 24, 2025 at 7:57 pm #716342
    Dansa
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    Thanks Stephen

    For the inter-company to cancel each other, the first translation to USD in the subsidiary as well as the translation in the parent to consolidate from USD back to GBP would have to be at transaction date fx rate, otherwise there would be a mismatch no? (Only referring to the payable and receivable)

    March 25, 2025 at 2:24 pm #716352
    Stephen Widberg
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    P sells £100 sausages to S. P has receivable of £100.
    S trades in $. Exchange rate $2 = £1.
    S will credit payables with $200.

    Assume exchange rate moves to 3 at year end.
    S retranslates payable to $300.

    So P has receivable of £100 and S has payable of $300.

    Then translate all of S at 3.
    Now P has receivable of £100 and S has payable of £100.

    Now cancel out, and have a cup of tea.

    🙂

    March 26, 2025 at 7:22 pm #716365
    Dansa
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    Perfect Stephen

    Thanks so much

    March 29, 2025 at 8:34 am #716406
    Stephen Widberg
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    🙂

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