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For Nov 2014 do mentors have to be registered as Approved mentors?

Forums › OBU Forums › For Nov 2014 do mentors have to be registered as Approved mentors?

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  • August 19, 2014 at 7:06 am #191407
    avian will
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    I would like to make reference to Page 6 of the OBU RAP information pack 2014/2015 which states the following: ”From January 2015 your chosen Mentor must be Approved by the University and on the Approved Mentors List.”

    I would like to submit my RAP in the coming November 2014 session (period 29). Those of you who are doing the same, I was wondering does the rule regarding mentors apply to my mentor?

    Damn when I decided to do the BSc that is when stringent rules apply :'( sniff sniff

    August 19, 2014 at 7:39 am #191410
    avian will
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    I mean OBU said after January 2015… I will be submitting now which falls in Nov 2014 obviously but results will be in 2015…so dunno just got concerned. So does the rule apply for mentors mentoring in 2014?

    August 19, 2014 at 9:14 am #191426
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    @avian will – For P29 submissions you will be able to use anyone who meets the 2013/2014 requirements or even forward the CV of someone whom you believe may be suitable for subsequent OBU approval. Should you fail then you will need to ensure that for the resubmission that your work is ‘signed off’ by an OBU listed mentor. OBU will be checking up on mentors as many are not satisfactory and OBU has the right to withdraw listing from any considered unsuitable thus preventing them from operating. OBU will also be verifying that the stated mentor was used as to stay listed mentors will be required to complete a return of all the students mentored and their reg. numbers

    It is a case when you are paying for a mentor that you establish their ability, experience and expertise – I have seen some mentors advertise that they can offer mentoring for all 20 topics – a very dubious claim as even with all of my experience there are one or two I would not feel comfortable with! Another ruse is that they lure you in and then talk you into doing a different topic (usually T8 ) – I’ve heard of one mentor who not only pushes students into Topic 8 but then veers them to the same company!

    August 19, 2014 at 4:53 pm #191543
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    @trephena Are you a mentor? Have you ever mentored? Or have you done the degree yourself? Just interested to know a little more about your background and expertise. Do you have a site of your own where I can signup with you?

    August 19, 2014 at 9:25 pm #191564
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    Darn it!Page 6? And here I was thinking I had read the guide keenly. How does this work? Do I get my mentor approved or do I have to choose one of the listed mentors?

    August 19, 2014 at 11:07 pm #191574
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    @eller – I think you may be looking at the 2014/2015 Guidelines whereas the rules in the 2013/2014 pack regarding mentors are still applicable for P29 submissions. Please take a look at my article on our OBU home page where I look at how to choose a mentor. The new rules are not effective until Jan 2015.

    If your mentor does not fall within the categories outlined then you will need to seek approval. Even after Dec 2014 all anyone needs to do to become a mentor is fulfil the OBU requirements that include passing the online mentoring course (which only costs about £80) so in theory a colleague may be able to act as your mentor if they do this and you can use OT for additional advice & support 🙂

    August 20, 2014 at 8:33 am #191606
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    Thanks for the useful info you always provide @trephena

    August 20, 2014 at 8:36 am #191608
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    Thanks a great deal @trephena 🙂

    I am in the process of choosing a mentor for myself.
    Where I live there are few ACCA members so my choices are limited. I can get someone online but they appear to be expensive -_-
    Anyhow I get the impression that most of the project is our own independent work so wouldn’t you agree that a mentor’s work is rather limited? even in terms of guiding the student? The person I am considering now isn’t experienced with OBU-BSc so would that be too much of a problem? What is your take about the experience of the mentor?

    August 20, 2014 at 9:54 am #191616
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    @avian will – You are asking me to enter the eye of the storm on this one! 🙂 In your position would I currently use a paid mentor- Well no, I wouldn’t but I studied for my Masters distance learning and apart from my uni tutor being my supervisor for my dissertation I did the whole Masters on my own, so I am used to working things out for myself (which is as you say what a degree is all about). There are some good mentors but equally there are some bad and the fees tend to be disproportionate to the amount of work involved and being the cynic I am, I suspect some see it as ‘money for old rope’. (In fact one of the best in terms of results is actually a lady in the Far East – my contacts at OBU have a standing joke about her apparently as her mentees rarely fail – the work allegedly is a bit formulaic, but it seems that it ticks the assessment criteria boxes!!!)

    If your current proposed mentor belongs to a professional body or has a professional reputation then there should be no problem under the current rules getting approval for using them ( but act now on this). Then use OT and me for advice and support, rather than lining someone else’s pocket! 🙂

    August 20, 2014 at 11:25 am #191637
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    Haha! I like you @trephena… and your advice both here and in your articles…thanks a bunch 😀

    Oh I will be haunting this forum quite frequently now… so expect me 😛 … I’m getting onto the RAP down and dirty! I just so want to get that degree… I mean I toiled over ACCA like a slave miner and now that I finished, some companies won’t hire me because I lack a degree of any kind… how petty… and yes there’s a hint for all you freshies thinking about doing ACCA before getting a bachelors!

    Btw trephena… would you mind telling me where you did your masters distance learning from?

    August 20, 2014 at 5:11 pm #191692
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    @avian will – Thanks but please don’t get me started on the vagaries of the ’employer’ selecting their candidates 🙁 . The number of times I have had the feedback (via a recruitment consultant) ‘The client felt that you were over-qualified for the position’ – Oh really? How does that work? I came to the conclusion that it often meant that I was demonstrably better than the interviewer and they feared they might be out of a job if they hired me….. Maybe doing interim work is a solution for your particular problem – showing that you can do the job with or without a degree as you have the requisite skillset…. 😀

    Many UK universities offer distance learning in a variety of subjects at Masters level. You normally require a 2.1 from your first degree to do a post-graduate degree but if you have other qualifications and experience it can be varied. My MSc is from the University of Portsmouth who have a reputation in the field of Criminology (other universities have different specialisms)

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