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  • This topic has 11 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • October 18, 2016 at 6:43 pm #344774
    gabbi08
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    Dear Mr Mike,

    Could you kindly help me on below question?

    On the 1 Januay 20×1 Penfold purchased a debt instrument for its fair value of $500.000. It had a principal amount of $550.000 and was due to mature in five years. The debt instrument carries fixed interest of 6% paid annually in arrears and has an effective interest rate of 8%. It is held at amortised cost.

    At what amount will the debt instrument be shown in the statement of financials position of Penfold as the 31 December 20×2?

    Answer 514.560

    Working
    01.01.20×1
    500.000+40000 (8% Interest) -33000 (6% on 550000)=507000

    31.12.20×1

    507000 + 40560 -33000 = 514560

    I dont understand why the effective rate has been calculated on 550.000 and not 500000.
    Does the principal amount include the premium paid at maturity?
    If so, isnt the premium included into the effective rate? 8%.

    My answer was 520800 as I calculated the fixed rate on 500.000.

    Thanks

    Gabriella

    October 18, 2016 at 7:17 pm #344781
    MikeLittle
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    “500.000+40000 (8% Interest)”

    You can see from this extract from your post that the effective rate (8%) is calculated on the $500,000

    You’re getting confused!

    The coupon rate (6%) is applied to the face value of the debt instrument ($550,000)

    October 18, 2016 at 8:34 pm #344804
    gabbi08
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    Dear Mike,

    Yes I think I have made a bit of confusion, sorry about that.
    So, Am I right if I say that the effective rate must be used for the fair value of the debt instrument and the coupon rate is used for the principal/face value of the debt instrument?

    Thanks again for your help.

    Best Regards

    Gabriella

    October 18, 2016 at 10:05 pm #344860
    MikeLittle
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    That sums it up nicely, yes

    October 19, 2016 at 1:31 pm #344975
    gabbi08
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    Dear Mike,

    Thanks for your reply, this is clear now.
    However, I still have some doubts in relation to the financial instrument.

    Is it correct to say that the FV of the loan needs to be calculated if the Market Rate is different from the effective rate?

    Still a bit confused. what is the market rate? and why and when it should be different from the effective rate?

    Example 1

    4% $1000 loan 3 years. Market rate 10%

    Calculation of fair value of the loan

    1000*0.751= 751
    40*0.909=36.36
    40*0.826=33.04
    40*0.751=30.04
    Total 850.44

    Then the interest 4% (effective rate) will be using to calculate the interest on 850.44

    Example 2

    2%$1000 + 200 premium loan 3 years. Market rate 10%

    1200*0.751=901.2
    20*0.909=18.18
    20*0826= 16.52
    20*0.751=15.02

    Total fair value 950.92

    I hope I was able to make the statement clear enough

    Thanks for your help

    Gabriella

    October 19, 2016 at 2:38 pm #344990
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    “Is it correct to say that the FV of the loan needs to be calculated if the Market Rate is different from the effective rate?”

    Yes

    “Still a bit confused. what is the market rate? and why and when it should be different from the effective rate?”

    It’s the face rate or coupon rate. It’s the rate of interest that the borrower has agreed to pay. But in this type of instrument there is often a premium t be paid on the final redemption

    So, when adding all the interest and the value of the premium together, the examiner will say something like “A similar instrument without the final premium would need an interest rate of (say) 8%”

    Why?

    Because it reduces the amounts payable in the immediate future (the 6% interest) and defers the true liability until redemption date

    No. The 850.44 will be unwound at the rate of 10%. So …

    850.44 + 10% unwinding = 935.48

    935.48 – 40 interest paid = 895.48

    895.48 + 10% unwinding = 985.03

    985.03 – 40 interest paid = 945.03

    945.03 + 10% unwinding = 1,039.53

    1,039.53 – 40 interest paid = 999.53 = 1,000.00

    Similarly:

    950.92 will be unwound at the rate of 10%. So …

    950.92 + 10% unwinding = 1,046.01

    1,046.01 – 20 interest paid = 1,026.01

    1,026.01 + 10% unwinding = 1,128.61

    1,128.61 – 20 interest paid = 1,108.61

    1,108.61 + 10% unwinding = 1,219.47

    1,219.47 – 20 interest paid = 1,199.47 = 1,200.00

    OK?

    October 20, 2016 at 3:38 pm #345221
    gabbi08
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    Dear Mike,

    It is not only ok… it is perfect!

    Now it is clear.
    Thanks a lot

    Gabriella

    October 20, 2016 at 8:05 pm #345261
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    October 22, 2016 at 11:22 am #345566
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    Hi Mike,

    I have another question with regard the financial instrument…
    Let say that we have a discount on issue or cost of issue. Should we subtract both of them from the principal amount as per below example?

    For example.

    2%$1000
    Cost of issue 100
    Loan 3 years. Market rate 10%

    Calculation of fair value

    1000-(100) =900

    900*0.751=675.9
    20*0.909=18.18
    20*0826= 16.52
    20*0.751=15.02

    Fair value = 725.62

    The same apply for discount

    Thanks and Best Regards

    Gabriella

    October 22, 2016 at 12:33 pm #345576
    MikeLittle
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    “900*0.751=675.9”

    No, you’re going to have to pay $1,000 in 3 years’ time so this line should be “1,000*0.751=$751.31”

    Here we go again!

    Present value of the flows associated with the loan are:

    20 x .909 = 18.18
    20 x .826 = 16.53
    20 x .751 = 15.03
    1,000 x .751 = 751.31

    So, a present value of 801.05

    801.05 will be unwound at the rate of 10%. So …

    801.05 + 10% unwinding = 881.16

    881.16 – 20 interest paid = 861.16

    861.16 + 10% unwinding = 947.28

    947.28 – 20 interest paid = 927.28

    927.28 + 10% unwinding = 1,020.00

    1,020.00 – 20 interest paid = 1,000.00

    OK?

    As for a discount on issue … how does that work? We borrow $1,000 but the lender says “You only owe me $900”

    If that’s what happens, the above figures become …

    Present value of the flows associated with the loan are:

    20 x .909 = 18.18
    20 x .826 = 16.53
    20 x .751 = 15.03
    900 x .751 = 676.18

    So, a present value of 725.90

    725.90 will be unwound at the rate of 10%. So …

    725.90 + 10% unwinding = 798.49

    798.49 – 20 interest paid = 778.49

    778.49 + 10% unwinding = 856.35

    856.35 – 20 interest paid = 836.35

    836.35 + 10% unwinding = 919.99

    919.99 – 20 interest paid = 900.00

    But why would a lender say that?

    If you know anyone that would lend me money on those terms, please let me know!

    October 22, 2016 at 5:55 pm #345612
    gabbi08
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    Dear Mike,

    For example 1, how do we treat the cost of issue?
    Where should it be deducted from? from the Fair value of 801.05?

    Thanks

    Gabriella

    October 23, 2016 at 4:48 pm #345711
    MikeLittle
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