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  • This topic has 9 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 1 year ago by Kim Smith.
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  • September 9, 2023 at 8:32 am #691786
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    The finance costs are paid in arrears and may not have been correctly accrued at the year end resulting in understated accruals and finance costs.
    If finance costs are not correctly accrued then it could lead to misstated accruals and misstated finance costs. So why is it written understated accruals and understated finance costs.
    If it was written that finance costs were not accrued at year end instead of correctly accrued then it would lead to understated accruals and understated finance costs. Is it correct

    September 9, 2023 at 4:19 pm #691826
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    To accrue finance costs at the end of the year, the entry would be:

    Dr Finance cost (expense in SoPL) 500 (say)
    Cr Accrual (liability in SoFP) 500

    If this entry is not made, the omission of 500 expense means it is understated – similarly for the liability.

    September 9, 2023 at 4:33 pm #691827
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    The finance costs are paid in arrears and may not have been correctly accrued at the year end resulting in understated accruals and finance costs.

    If finance costs are not correctly accrued then it could lead to misstated accruals and misstated finance costs. So why is it written understated accruals and understated finance costs in the above statement.

    September 9, 2023 at 6:13 pm #691833
    Kim Smith
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    Have you even read my reply? Is it the term “in arrears” that you do not understand?

    September 12, 2023 at 8:02 am #691907
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    If finance costs are not correctly accrued then accruals and finance costs could be misstated.

    In the book it is written that the finance costs are paid in arrears and may not have been correctly accrued at the year end resulting in understated accruals and finance costs.

    Why in the book it is written understated instead of misstated

    September 12, 2023 at 10:02 am #691917
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    An “understated” amount means stated at less than it should be – i.e. the amount is incomplete in some way e.g. an omission (as I have illustrated) or could simply be recording $50 instead of $500

    An “overstated” amount means stated at more than it should be – e.g. due to double counting/recording the same transaction twice or incorrectly recording a transaction of $50 as $500

    “misstatement” doesn’t tell you “which way” – under? or over? The examiner expects candidates to be specific in identifying whether a misstatement is under or over whereever it is possible to determine this.

    September 12, 2023 at 2:51 pm #691926
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    The finance costs are paid in arrears and may not have been correctly accrued at the year end resulting in understated accruals and finance costs

    The finance costs are paid in arrears and may not have been correctly accrued at the year end resulting in misstated accruals and finance costs

    Which of the above two statements is correct and why

    September 12, 2023 at 4:45 pm #691955
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    Both are correct statements – but “understated” is more accurate – it is saying that the amount of accruals and finance costs are recognised/recorded at a lesser amount than they should be

    The second statement is saying that they are at a different amount – it doesn’t tell you specifically whether it is more or less

    September 17, 2023 at 9:28 am #692131
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    The finance costs are paid in arrears and may not have been accrued at the year end resulting in understated accruals and finance costs

    The finance costs are paid in arrears and may not have been correctly accrued at the year end resulting in understated accruals and finance costs

    Which statement is better

    In the first statement the word correctly has been removed

    September 17, 2023 at 2:22 pm #692144
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    It depends what the writer is wanting to convey – that we want the accrued amount to be correct (rather than “any” accrual) is made explicit in the second statement.

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