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- April 26, 2016 at 9:33 am #312701
Hi guys,
I am about to give up this course. on my 3rd attempt, I was fully confident to get a pass mark, but i failed again with 49 and totally frustrated and upsetted…I don’t know what to do…in my last 2 attempts, I was takling tjhis papaer with my postgraduate studies and to be honest I haven’t read the text and didn’t do excercises. However, this time i was prepared well and covered almost all of the text and exam kit. But now I even don’t have the courage to register for the June exam and may be i am considerring to sit in September 2016.
I am a slow writer and usually don’t finish the ACCA exams but still I expect a pass mark in my 3rd attempt of March 2016. I am now thinking of shifting to P6 and that is why i didn’t register for June exam.
Please advise me both on my approach to P5 and my plan to shift to P6. This is the only paper i have to be a memeber of ACCA.
Thank you for your advice in advance.
April 26, 2016 at 12:13 pm #312725AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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hi teme2009,
I can understand your frustration!! I have registered P5 for June16 sitting. To be honest I have no idea how to approach the questions after failed in Dec15. For days I have been looking for a way to study this paper. Therefore I can not advise you on P5.However, I passed P6 (UK) first time in March16. If you are going to do this paper, I would recommend you to study with Kaplan live online and the tutor JF is the best and she is very helpful!
If you want to continuing with P5 for June sitting, I am looking for a study group to discuss questions with. There was a chat room in Opentution years ago and I used it for my P3 study. But it doesn’t seem to have chat room here any more. I found I need brainstorm session for this paper and I think discuss questions may help.
Good luck!! 🙂
Jay
April 27, 2016 at 9:32 am #312821Thank you so much Jay for taking your time and share your feeling/advice. I am really standing in the middle of the road. I like the contents of the P5 paper and i read it with interest and I am sure i grasp a lot of knowledge from it. But i couldn’t make it happen. I am not yet registered for the June exam and today is the last day for me to register or not for the June sitting. Honestly, if I wish to take P6 it is highly unlikely to make it for June since only a month time is left for the exam. I opt to take P5 and see my chance but thanks to Alex Watt i lost my confidence somehow…
I don’t know what to do…but if i decide not to sit this June, most likely I will take P6 and try it for September. I haven’t used any of the online courses except taht of OT and most of them are not accessible for us (here at Ethiopia). If i decide to resit P5 this June i will be back to you for the discussion…please standby!!!
Teme
April 27, 2016 at 9:58 am #312827AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi Teme,
Don’t let failure for one exam to knock down your confidence!! If you think P5 is the only option for you at the moment, just give another go. 49% is very very close!! I have feeling that you are going to pass next time! Just have a think what you could do better in your last exam 🙂Good luck!!
Jay
April 28, 2016 at 6:31 am #312900AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi Rohan and roro,
Kindly assist me with your email addresses so that I just send you 1script and you help me where I go wrong.
I have failed P5 uncountable times and I really need help, I do not want to change the subject.
Thank you.April 28, 2016 at 7:48 am #312911Dear Jay,
Thank you for your advice and encouragement. I already registered for P5 (June sitting) yesterday and am about to start refreshing myself soon. Please keep in touch and exchange ideas and expereinces. Here is my email address: temesgengeta@yahoo.com
Thank you,
May 13, 2016 at 2:58 pm #314940Dear students, never give up on P5, you know what? i wrote the paper 9 time, yes i mean writing this one paper for four and half years.
I finally passed the paper in 2014/2015 diet now an ACCA member. I was resolute and determined never to give up since i could pass P4.
Interestingly, my current job role fall withing P5 learning. Never ever give up, you will definitely be there.
Finally, ensure you understand the questions before embarking on answering them.
Best of Luck in your June exams
September 4, 2016 at 5:27 am #337404AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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This is great! Thanks a bunch!
September 12, 2016 at 2:43 am #340008Thank You Rohan. Great Post very encouraging
October 14, 2016 at 10:34 am #343269AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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October 17, 2016 at 3:32 am #343739Thanks Rohan, great post ever. I ‘ve passed in Sep 2016 with 73 at 3rd attemp. I read your post 1 week before the exam and its help me so much.
February 21, 2017 at 12:06 am #373422What a great analysis..!! Hope it helps me pass P5 in this first attempt?
@rohan300189 said:
Hello guys,I passed at 74 too in my 4th attempt. My score was 47, 38, 48 and then 74! The question is how??
Let me ask you a simple question- how many of you know exactly what’s going on with Sony, Twitter, Nokia, Tesco’s, Rio Tinto , Unilever in terms of their financial performance and strategy?? Most of you don’t, most of you can’t define what’s happening in real world and thats why you are here.as you are not fit to be a qualified ACCA and neither did I because I never cared enough about developing myself as a business professional. Senior managers and qualified accountants read business newspapers every day and if you ask them then they will be able to give you answers to my questions. I have full sympathy for those who don’t have guidance. Because best training providers fail to train candidates on most important aspects of P5.
Well guys let’s think this way.. Tesco is doing really bad – which it is at the very moment. CEO wants you as an advisor to evaluate how the business can turn around with an aim to maintain market share, profitability and customer satisfaction. (8 marks)
I use to answer and I know most of you guys would answer along the lines of 4 points mentioned below. I have then mentioned in brackets what examiner would want to see in your answer and why you don’t get 50%!
– Reduce cost. This will improve profitability.—— (But how? Where? What impact will this have?)
-Better marketing. This will improve market awareness amongst consumers and brand loyalty.—–(To target what/whom? What about cost implication? Is it necessary?)
-Improved stocks on shelves. To maintain customer satisfaction.—-(How? Do we have systems to do this? Will it improve customer satisfaction and if so why??
– Improve pricing, perhaps reduce the price. (What about margins? DO we have a plan to reduce costs too? What models can be used to close the gap? Should we source better cheaper supplier? If so will it reduce quality)If you answer all those questions in brackets above then you will be scoring at least 12-13 marks if questioned wasn’t capped at 8 marks. But instead majority of students give basic answers without a solution or further analysis into other things that affect businesses. The 4 points mentioned above will hardly fetch me 3 marks because all I have done is identified a strategy or solution to the problem. I haven’t analysed it . I haven’t provided how we can achieve it , neither have I given an example in relation to the company !!!
Now look at the model answer below( its brief but mentions all the points required to score full marks.Answer:
– Reduce Cost
[What]-Focus on cutting costs in areas not adding enough value in supply chain (0.5 mark). Example can be suppliers, logistics , staff , systems.(0.5 marks)
[How] There might be a need for an organisational restructure in reducing costs (0.5marks). Perhaps bring restructuring consultants specialised in the area (0.5marks)
[Risks/implications] Staff morale might reduce due to panic. Exercise to reduce cost might be costly in itself. (0.5marks) Perhaps involve staff in change management to avoid any demotivation.(0.5 marks)– Improved Marketing
[What] Target loyal customer in order to maintain market share. [0.5marks].Advertise more on loyalty cards and current offers through right channels of communication or maintain current client base. Advertise should be focused on comparisons of prices if new customers are to be attracted in order to improve or maintain market share.(0.5-1 mark).
[How]- We need to ensure that we have budgets for it or savings within other budgets of overall marketing budget.(0.5-1mark)
[Implication] There is always a risk that marketing might not be effective and might fail to win customers. To forecast check previous results and effectiveness of similar marketing campaigns.(1mark)– Improved stocks
[What] Improve stock positioning to push improved volumes. 0.5 mark
[How]. Improve stock positioning of items that are easy to sell (consumable like chocolates and drinks). Stop stocking slow moving brands as they might be a burden on supply chain.
Use better stocking systems or models that gives detailed analysis to purchasing manager.(1 mark)
[Implication] purchase items from better suppliers who provide good value for money. Stop stocking lower margin products. Improve the MI systems that give detailed view of stock and ensure that costs of this process improvement don’t exceed the benefits. 1 markGuys I have only spoken about 3 main points and applied simple elaboration rules (How, What, Why, Implications, Example) and I am already scoring 9-10 marks or more.
Sometimes students go blank during answering questions and can’t think of any ideas. The best thing to do is think of Mckinseys 7s( Systems , strategy , structure, staff , skills and style) They are all inter related. Changing one will have impact on all other S’s. For example change in systems means 1) u need to train staff for “skills”2) You might need a “restructure” and employ more people. 3) “Staff” will be worried of change etc. You will notice that similarly I have used many “S” in my answer on Tesco.
Final advise, please do enough questions 20-30 and just use your basic business sense but write slightly more sophisticated business language to explain simple points.
Don’t get too nervous. Nervousness is a killer! Use proper noise cancellation ear buds(not cotton buds!). It should be available online or pharmacy. Spend enough time reading questions and not giving an answer to different question.
When you start your exam just try to forget theory of every topic you learned instead try to plan answer in a way as if you own that business. Then think of models or techniques to apply , if you cant then its fine , just apply your common sense and you will notice that even without thinking of a model you actually applied a model unknowingly in your answer.
Best of Luck guys.
RohanMarch 13, 2017 at 4:43 pm #378060Hello All
While i really Really appreciate the advice put forward by roro, i am not sure i understand how reading the financial times would give me a better understanding. I’m thinking that those articles would just highlight an issue and not focus on the solution. I would greatly appreciate it if someone can please explain, thanks 🙂
March 13, 2017 at 6:18 pm #378075– It will improve your business knowledge/awareness.
– It will improve your business writing/ vocabulary
– FT articles have good comparative and provides arguments from various angles of debate. Reading it regularly will eventually improve your analytical and articulation skills.It will help to shape your thinking which will assist you in becoming good at business management.
Some can pass P5 paper without doing any of what I have advised, but they wont necessarily be here reading these articles as they wouldn’t need to!
March 16, 2017 at 2:24 am #378413thanks for responding!
July 20, 2017 at 5:58 pm #397829AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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very very helpful thank mate!.
but can you tell me how much marks you attempted , did u completed the whole paper then got 70 plus marks.October 16, 2017 at 12:17 pm #411844I’ve made a whatsapp group for all P5 aspirants.
https://chat.whatsapp.com/HvZuu5fHEDQKVxZ6iUClMF
Join and help each other. 🙂
December 9, 2017 at 1:28 pm #422255Please share me p5 resources which I have planned to do in 2017 march: m.aslamkhan02@gmail.com
July 11, 2018 at 3:27 pm #461650Thanks Rohan. U have open a door for me in P5.
October 27, 2018 at 8:41 pm #479978GREAT EXPLANATION
May 26, 2019 at 5:53 pm #517440I failed twice with APM and was looking for an answer what I do wrong. I came across this brilliant advice from roro (Rohan) and for the 3rd attempt just trying to keep in mind what Rohan said and apply it. As result I passed! Thank you Rohan! I believe this is the best piece of advice on on APM exam you can find on forums
December 12, 2019 at 10:27 pm #555812Thank you for this comment, great insight!
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