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- November 9, 2014 at 1:10 pm #208579
Just want to know for file size : 10 MB = ……… Kb
And in the info pack, its stated that All submitted folders (RAP, SLS, PPt, Appendix and List of references) should not be more than 10MB. Am I right or wrong?. Correct me if I am misunderstanding.
thanks
November 9, 2014 at 1:19 pm #20858210 * 1024, somewhere close to 10000 Kb
and yes 10000 kb is the limit inclusive of all files but normally you can’t really exceed this limit
November 9, 2014 at 3:11 pm #208627I have clarified the 7,500 word count limit with OBU. Markers are instructed to stop marking once 7,500 words is reached. This may mean that your conclusion is not marked and without a conclusion you can be failed on Assessment Criteria 3 Evaluation, Analysis & Conclusions. There are two ways this instant fail may be avoided: do your conclusion before recommendations if you are on the limit or if you have drawn some conclusions in your analysis these may be taken into consideration. However the latter is a risky policy so I would suggest trimming Parts 1 & 2 so that you are within the word count limit – certainly that would be my ploy 🙂
November 9, 2014 at 3:21 pm #208630thank you Trephena, I’ll surely do as you have said. One more query, Should I really put an acknowledgement part in the RAP? or it is necessary?Plz advise
November 9, 2014 at 3:58 pm #208639@tanvi2211 – acknowledgements are not necessary but a nice touch – why not load it for RAP purposes as an appendix as it would otherwise be captured by the word count? If you print out your RAP for your own purposes include the acknowledgements page either immediately before or after the contents page.
November 15, 2014 at 2:34 pm #210229Hi everyone I’m really confused about the word count. Does the word count display in MS Word include the words in graphs and tables? If not how do you calculate these words?
November 15, 2014 at 5:29 pm #210271@sameed – you total word count will be that as shown by MS Word – I believe the marker will go on that provided that they have no reason to believe that devious means have been made to embed text as images or the like to either circumvent the word count or to try to outwit the electronic checking system. In those cases if they have suspicions about any student’s work they will subject it to further checks. In the case of word count this is not normally a problem if you have only used images for graphs as the amount of words is negligible, so don’t worry about it 🙂
November 16, 2014 at 7:09 am #210320Hi i’m really confused about the word count. Ms word shows me a word count of 7194 words but it doesn’t include my graphs and smart art. So i’m not sure what to declare as my word count .. Do i have to count the all words and numbers in graphs or just the words in the title,legend and axis and add them to the ms word word count? It’s making me worried and i need to submit my RAP as soon as possible.
Thanks
November 16, 2014 at 8:14 am #210325the word count in the sls is it meant to be 350 to 650 ? will I be penalized for having 800, 310 , 325 and 370?
November 16, 2014 at 8:44 am #210329@denmaster – where are you getting these figures from? The SLS self-reflection is 2,000 words overall. You need to write about what you learned from the whole experience so if you have used 800 words describing what you did, rather than how it affected you or your approach then you are not answering the question.
Think about what your weaknesses were in all the things at the start and now looking back how your skills have improved and abilities strengthened – that’s the approach you have to take with each question so that you answer all 4 properly.
November 16, 2014 at 9:10 am #210344@mizztrayz – most of your query has been answered above in my reply to Sameed (they asked the question on a different forum topic so I have moved it here where it is more relevant – so no, you are not going mad it wasn’t here previously 🙂 but shows the need for people to post in the right place to start with!)
Just ensure your E&A is adequate as you probably could get away with another 100+ words allowing for the graphs and smart art (unless you have pasted large tables as images) if you have used many tables as images then you should add these back – copy and paste into a word doc as text to check the number of words.
November 16, 2014 at 10:20 am #210395@threphena
Thanks for your reply. However i’m still confused .. sorry. I pasted my graphs and smart art as images. In the graphs i have included numerical data..eg years and %s do i have to count thoses as well? cause word counts these numerics as words in the word count displayed..so sorry abt asking again.. i just want to be sure
November 16, 2014 at 10:35 am #210400@mizztrayz -don’t worry about it – the marker doesn’t have the time to count everything and they will only do so if they think there is deliberate trickery going on. Provided you haven’t pasted lots of your text or tables work as images there is nothing to get worked up about as graphs tend not to use many words.
If you read all the posts on here to you will see there is no problem with a low word count either provided the E&A is well done. It says on p.22 of the Info Pack that this is what will dictate the grade – provided you comply with the Assessment Criteria (Appendix 1) 🙂
November 16, 2014 at 10:51 am #210403Okay Thanks again.I only have one table showing revenues over the past 3 years which i pasted as an image other than that all other pictures are graphs and smart art.So i’ll just declare the ms word count on my cover page.
November 18, 2014 at 9:31 am #210905@denmaster. As per the OBU Info Pack, each of your answers to the SLS questions should range from 350-650. I recommend complying with this word count as you might be penalised for having short answers to some of the SLS questions.
The set word count is reasonable and you should be able to stay within the set word count limit.
November 18, 2014 at 10:17 am #210928@denmaster and @Anna as always it is the QUALITY of the responses that matter not the actual number of words (hence the huge range for estimated number suggested by OBU of 350 – 650 words per question) If you read the FAQ on the SLS on our home page (written by me but endorsed by an OBU marker I personally know) you will see that it is looking at your own strengths and weaknesses you should be focussing on and reflecting what you learned from these from your personal perspective. Just writing about the things you did is NOT self-reflection. So rather than get fixated about number of words (as long as you do not excessively exceed or it is lower than 1800 total it will be ok) ensure that you do self-evaluation in every question as recommended by the marker.
March 15, 2015 at 5:22 am #232433Hi, I doing topic 8 for resubmission. My first submission word count is 6500. Now increase to 7500. Just would like to know the word count rule still same for T8? Since i will put the numbers in the tables and show the percentage for analysis. Then below the table i will put one chart to show the trend. Will all the numbers like ($100,000) in the table and percentage in the chart counted? Thank you very much for anyone’s advice.
March 17, 2015 at 9:04 am #232743@milan204452 -The word count for all topics is 7,500 and includes the title page, contents page and ends with the final words in the Conclusions and Recommendations section. The word count involved in charts and graphs is minimal when viewed against their utility as normally graphs and charts are the best way to show relationships and changes in the trends. This means that if your chart etc is clear you do NOT have to tell the reader about what the graph shows as it should be obvious (and if you do, you are just wasting words). This has two implications: graphs can actually save you words as it saves you repeating what the reader can easily see for themselves and secondly markers hate text that contains lots of figures as that is NOT what analysis is all about. (see some of the marker feedback on our “OBU Marker Speak” forum)
Note: Evaluation and analysis involves linking PEST & SWOT factors to the companies’ performances and explaining what has gone on and not just making statements of the obvious e.g. that gross profit has fallen because the cost of sales has risen – it is WHY COS has risen that needs to be investigated in terms of factors from the business environment and management decisions – see my article on Evaluation on our homepage: https://opentuition.com/obu
March 17, 2015 at 9:24 am #232747Actually I want to put one table showing the sales figure for 3 financial years respectively. And also the revenue growth (%) in the table. Then below the table I will put one chart showing the trend (increase/decrease). Then I worried the numbers in the table will be word counted also.
March 17, 2015 at 12:09 pm #232762@milan204452 – to a certain extent it depends how they are formatted whether the electronic word count will pick them up. You will need to highlight the last work of text before the table and the first one afterwards and if you click on word count in MS Word it will show you how many words it has counted.
Embedded tables (ones pasted as images) tend not to be picked up by the word count at all BUT the markers will take them into account if the use of such means is excessive and if included the word count would exceed the limit. OBU has the right to fail on the basis that the student has tried to gain an advantage over others who have adhered to the wordcount and deliberately tried to circumvent it (in their opinion).
I mentioned the repetition as too often too many words and figures about changes in trends are used in the text when they were not needed (they add nothing) and none at all would have been preferable (figures on their own are tedious). If you are showing percentage differences in your figures in your table they do add some value, particularly if you highlight the percentages that are significant. 🙂
April 8, 2015 at 7:47 pm #240558@Allen – this has been answered before so please read my answers above
April 10, 2015 at 2:04 pm #240761AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi,
As there is a word limit of 7500 for RAP.
My query is, can I utilize the words saved from part 1 and 2 in part 3?
Like, after completing part 1 and 2, I am left with 4800 words. Can I utilize all those words up to the limit or should I contain part 3 to maximum 4500 words?
Regards,
April 10, 2015 at 3:27 pm #240768Please refer to the page 42 and page 43 of information pack
Part 1 approx. 1000 words
Part 2 approx. 2000 words
Part 3 approx. 4500 wordsApril 10, 2015 at 4:11 pm #240771Please also read our FAQs on the homepage http://www.opentuition.com/obu
where an OBU marker explains the breakdown is for guidance only. The message I get from OBU is the markers are mainly only concerned that the word count limit is not exceeded (though I doubt they would fail if it was 7525 but any more they might….)April 16, 2015 at 11:26 am #241512Hello,
I’m having problem with word count. I failed the lastest submission with the comment “Please note that the word count of your report includes all words. You have included some diagrams in your report which have not been counted due to their format. Please be aware that, with the inclusion of these, you are over your word limit.”
Can anyone tell me how you include words in those charts and graphs in your report? I haven’t figured it yet. I’m using Microsoft word 2007.
Thanks a lot.
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