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FA BPP Revision Kit 2020-2021, Incomplete records, 20.8 , 20.9 , 20.10

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  • January 29, 2021 at 5:19 pm #608492
    Asif110
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    Greetings sir,

    I really do not understand how do we calculate 20.8 and 20.9. Whether we use a T account or formula. Please guide in detail.

    As for 20.10, I made a Payable Control Account T account, but I did not understand according to the answer at the back how the drawings of $1,000 would be part of the Cr side of this T account.
    It should be Dr Drawings , Cr Purchase Expense.

    Nothing to do with Payable (which is a liability account). So it cannot be Dr Drawings Cr Payable.

    January 29, 2021 at 5:33 pm #608494
    John Moffat
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    20.8 is neither t-accounts nor formulae.
    It is testing on knowledge of Statements of Cash Flows. We know the change in the bank balance, we know the cash flows from investing activities and the cash flows from investing activities. so we can work back and calculate the cash flows from operating activities.
    Having got that, we can work backwards adjusting for the depreciation and the increase in working capital and calculate the profit.

    January 29, 2021 at 5:36 pm #608495
    John Moffat
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    20.9 is testing the accounting equation.
    We know the capital at the start of the year.
    We can calculate the profit for the year (taking the figure in the question and adding back the wages and the 400 for the telephone bill).
    We know the drawings (the 100 per week plus the telephone of 400 plus sales tax).

    So using the accounting equation we can calculate the capital at the end of the year.

    January 29, 2021 at 5:40 pm #608496
    John Moffat
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    20.10 You are correct in saying that the drawings do not appear in the payables account. SO presumably you got a figure for purchases of 938,050 in the account.
    You would debit this to purchases and then you would credit purchases with the drawings of 1,000.
    That leaves 937,050 on purchases.

    How you arrive at that figure in the exam is irrelevant because nobody looks at your workings.

    Presumably you did get the correct answer when you tried it yourself first?

    January 29, 2021 at 5:45 pm #608497
    Asif110
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    20.8

    I have not begun studying Cashflow. Will soon, then try this question again.

    January 29, 2021 at 5:46 pm #608498
    Asif110
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    John Moffat wrote:20.10 You are correct in saying that the drawings do not appear in the payables account. SO presumably you got a figure for purchases of 938,050 in the account.
    You would debit this to purchases and then you would credit purchases with the drawings of 1,000.<br>That leaves 937,050 on purchases.

    Could you please do the calculation step by step ?

    January 29, 2021 at 5:48 pm #608499
    Asif110
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    Im sorry the above reply was for 20.9. Please solve it step by step sir.

    January 29, 2021 at 5:51 pm #608500
    Asif110
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    20.10

    Ok now I get it. Very well explained. I got 938,050. It did not strike me to use two t account as I am accustomed to questions being solved by one t account. So that was quite an eye opener question. Therefore I ignored the 1,000 Drawings – thought it was there just to confuse me, and I should focus on the rest.

    January 30, 2021 at 8:55 am #608544
    John Moffat
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    20.9

    I have already answered you step by step. Calculate the profit and the drawing the way that I explained.
    Then use the accounting equation (which is explained in Chapter 2. of the free lectures notes and the lecture working though the chapter) to get the increase in capital.

    January 30, 2021 at 8:56 am #608545
    John Moffat
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    20.10 Again, it doesn’t matter how you go about solving it. I would actually have prepared two very quick t-accounts.

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