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- June 8, 2013 at 2:31 am #130607AnonymousInactive
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<cite> @satmah said:</cite>
Same thing i thought, but the question stated that the machine would cause sales units to increase by 9000 units every year. They had to state it in the question for a reason.I don’t remember the exact words but the incremental 9000 units each year was in relation with the old machine they were replacing. They could have as well given us the capacity of the old machine, and the capacity of the new machine, and we would have calculated our own incremental units.
The word incrememntal meant extra contribution – as in relevant values. If you remember, the Fixed cost were also incremental – the only ones relevant to the investment.
Don’t you think at that level of increase in units (double each year), both the fixed costs and working capital levels will not cope!! Think about it?Forgive me if I am wrong
June 8, 2013 at 2:43 am #130608Thanks for your comment. But i think if they used the word incremental, that would have changed the meaning to what you are saying. But the question made no mention of incremental. What they said in the question was that as a result of investing into the new machine, it would cause production units to increase by 9000 units every year. The question then went on to say to assume all units produced are sold.
What do you think?
June 8, 2013 at 3:04 am #130609I got 4510 for NPv and 292 for the forward contract WACc 8 % I know I am wrong
June 8, 2013 at 4:32 am #130613<cite>@bayigga said:</cite>
A machine has limited capacity. Isn’t it rather odd for a machine to double productivity the older it gets?Can’t agree more with u here, the PV I got is 10m initial investment 5.5m which gives an NPV of 4.5m.
June 8, 2013 at 4:54 am #130617<cite> @Sabrina1942 said:</cite>
I got 4510 for NPv and 292 for the forward contract WACc 8 % I know I am wrongNPV was 4 million+ and the Forward maket was 296000 and money market 294000 and the WACC was 12.2% I think I am correct 😀
June 8, 2013 at 5:20 am #130620<cite> @donizback said:</cite>
NPV was 4 million+ and the Forward maket was 296000 and money market 294000 and the WACC was 12.2% I think I am correct 😀Did u add the scarp value as well as the working capital .
June 8, 2013 at 6:09 am #130623Return of 18% should exclude issue cost? N regarding the factors to be considered for the traded bond, equity finance,can I mention on the dilution control issue?
June 8, 2013 at 6:17 am #130625<cite> @donizback said:</cite>
nevermind bro it cant be more than 2 marks chill nowso if loan is to be added, what market value will you use
June 8, 2013 at 6:19 am #130626<cite><a href=”https://opentuition.com/members/Lambyang
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why didnt u use irr estimate formula? i get it and i use 3% and 5%, 3% will get you a positive npvyes i used 5% and 3%- the cost of capital was 4% though to make the NPV =0
June 8, 2013 at 6:24 am #130628<cite> @lfrancus said:</cite>
I may be mistaken but sure Pref.shares are included in wacc calcsyes i included pref shares along with debt and equity, however i didnot include the loan as i did not have a market value???? any take on this
June 8, 2013 at 8:18 am #130636<cite> @donizback said:</cite>
yup right the exam was fair indeed but yea Q3 was a bit tricky with the part a, but i managed to write something( might be stupid i dont know :P) but I think it was managable exam I managed to do the exam and wrote a lot extra too and was free 10 mins before the time finishedConerning Question 3: The factors for the receivables policy ! I guess the same question came out last year ! Again with 8 marks ! Quite tricky and amazing at the same time. I’ve just elaborated on those factors:
(1) Assessing creditworthiness
(2) Credit limits
(3) Invoice promptly and collect overdue debts
(4) Monitor the credit systemJune 8, 2013 at 8:21 am #130637NPV for the first question is positive …..Im I r8 ?
June 8, 2013 at 8:43 am #130646could you tell me the answer for financial objective
June 8, 2013 at 8:46 am #130647<cite> @skay123 said:</cite>
Hi guys,
In the WACC calc….working out the cost of the redeemable loan note ……in the irr calc for df@5%and 10% for both Npv I got was negative…did anyone get this or maybe I went wrong with the calculator….????.?I did but 5% came to something really low like 2.xx and 10% was negative so it worked out in the formula.. I don’t really remember my IRR figure though.
I think the MV was $104.7x, the interest was $4.9% (net of tax) & redemption $100… And it was either for 6 years or 10 years, I don’t really remember :/
So you can recalculate the average if u remember the no. of years..
June 8, 2013 at 8:53 am #130648<cite> @meazakiros said:</cite>
could you tell me the answer for financial objectiveI wrote maximization of SH wealth as the first objective, and for the second I wrote profit maximization (and explained the difference). I could be wrong though…
June 8, 2013 at 8:57 am #130650Concerning Question 3: The factors for the receivables policy ! I guess the same question came out last year ! Again with 8 marks ! Quite tricky and amazing at the same time. I’ve just elaborated on those factors:
(1) Assessing creditworthiness
(2) Credit limits
(3) Invoice promptly and collect overdue debts
(4) Monitor the credit systemPlease advise if it’s right !!!
Thanks
June 8, 2013 at 8:57 am #130651<cite> @sharlene20 said:</cite>
yes i included pref shares along with debt and equity, however i didnot include the loan as i did not have a market value???? any take on thisI used I(1-T) as the cost and the book value as the market value, because I thought the MV would be the same in the case of an untraded loan (i.e. bank loan).. I think that was wrong 🙁
All I can say is, I hope we both pass! (Y) 😀
June 8, 2013 at 9:19 am #130655I seem to have a different answer to everyone else on the money market or forward hedge.
I came upo with the forward option being better as if you borrowed sufficint funds to have €500000 in three months time at an interest rate of 9% on the euro account you could only convert 500000/((9%/12months)x3months) = € 488,997.55 at the current rate the interest due over the three months would take the debt upto the €500000 to be recieved. Then even if you take into account that you would get 4% on that € 488,997.55 you were still better off taking the forward rate.June 8, 2013 at 9:23 am #130657I think we come under pressure – I know I definitely did, don’t know about the others. I was freaking out, using wrong figures for values EVEN THOUGH I had calculated the correct figures.
The art of professionalism is to be able to clear out the ambiguities and solve problems using a lot of random data in the time given – to be able to work with all that we have. If we mentioned our assumptions I think the markers will give us the credit due.
In all honesty the examiner could have REALLY complicated F9, by asking very detailed, specified questions. Vague but rather unsophisticated questions are much easier to handle because as long as we state our assumptions and stick to the rules I think we get the marks we deserve.
June 8, 2013 at 9:56 am #130661I thought it was a fair exam, even though i messed up the WACC by calculating wrong figures, hopefully get something for method marks…
Not wanting to have to resit in December… 🙁
June 8, 2013 at 11:15 am #130670AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@nevyana said:
That is how this examiner is maintaining low pass rate- by unclear questions, not by suffisticated scenarios. 2/3 of the people have different interpretation from what he ment in the question and they will fail, like I failed last time because I wrote on completely different topics that he ment, although I was very well prepared. This exam is not fair at all.??????????????
The exam was the easiest ACCA exam I have ever taken. Easier than F1, easier than MA1. The questions were not unclear, I presume English is not your first language?? If you study and revise, you gain the marks. If you don’t, you fail. If you don’t read the question then you have no business aspiring to work in finance and accounting where accuracy is critical and the devil is in the detail. (Double facepalm…..)
June 8, 2013 at 11:32 am #130675<cite>@jalapeno said:</cite>
The exam was the easiest ACCA exam I have ever taken. Easier than F1, easier than MA1. The questions were not unclear, I presume English is not your first language?? If you study and revise, you gain the marks. If you don’t, you fail. If you don’t read the question then you have no business aspiring to work in finance and accounting where accuracy is critical and the devil is in the detail. (Double facepalm…..)
Ok, I will go back and delete my post, but please keep offenses for youself. I am sitting already P7, so if I pass F9 I will be qualified + I have the experience already. I did not post to argue.
June 8, 2013 at 11:49 am #130678AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @satmah said:</cite>
Thanks for your comment. But i think if they used the word incremental, that would have changed the meaning to what you are saying. But the question made no mention of incremental. What they said in the question was that as a result of investing into the new machine, it would cause production units to increase by 9000 units every year. The question then went on to say to assume all units produced are sold.What do you think?
You see that’s your interpretation of the question. And my view is my interpretation of the question. None of us remembers the exact words. The questions will be on ACCA website in a few days and we can interpret with a clear mind then. But have you ever seen any such questions in your study and revision where the capacity of the machine is not fixed or set? In such questions, we are looking for that extra contribution.
June 8, 2013 at 11:58 am #130680AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite>@jalapeno said:</cite>
@nevyana said:
That is how this examiner is maintaining low pass rate- by unclear questions, not by suffisticated scenarios. 2/3 of the people have different interpretation from what he ment in the question and they will fail, like I failed last time because I wrote on completely different topics that he ment, although I was very well prepared. This exam is not fair at all.??????????????
The exam was the easiest ACCA exam I have ever taken. Easier than F1, easier than MA1. The questions were not unclear, I presume English is not your first language?? If you study and revise, you gain the marks. If you don’t, you fail. If you don’t read the question then you have no business aspiring to work in finance and accounting where accuracy is critical and the devil is in the detail. (Double facepalm…..)
Man, that’s rude and arrogant. I was brought up speaking English but I still found the interpretation a bit confusing. I had to read every requirement twice. learn some manners @Jalapeno
June 8, 2013 at 12:03 pm #130681AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @nevyana said:</cite>
That is how this examiner is maintaining low pass rate- by unclear questions, not by suffisticated scenarios. 2/3 of the people have different interpretation from what he ment in the question and they will fail, like I failed last time because I wrote on completely different topics that he ment, although I was very well prepared. This exam is not fair at all.You are quite right. The questions were manageable if you got the interpretation right. The exam was not as direct as some people think. That’s how we fail by thinking it’s easy.
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