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- June 7, 2013 at 3:54 pm #130398
<cite> @icedawn said:</cite>
no it said to calculate wacc based on market values !! if it said book values then yes reserves should be takenOMG I went BACK to change it – I crossed my answer out calculated the WHOLE THING again… :'(
I feel so stupid :O πJune 7, 2013 at 3:54 pm #130399<cite> @narinemalakyan said:</cite>
Did you inflated working capital (500,000$) in Q1 a when calculated NPV for the project?
tax relief for WDA was starting with T2, right?yea there was an inflation rate for working capital all recovered in year 4 . The line equal zero when u add all
And tax savings start in year 2 , same as tax, Was told one year in arrears in questionJune 7, 2013 at 3:57 pm #130401btw for the bank , were we supposed to use the after tax interest or just the 4 %?
June 7, 2013 at 4:01 pm #130403<cite>@alatu said:</cite>
I liked the fact that all the questions were really short, so not much reading and looking for the information needed.
I would say a fair questions in general, maybe only some time constraint.
Q3 slowed me down as I was not sure how to get to the saving on finance costs after change of working capital policies.
I recalculated overdraft, but not sure if this is the correct way as I did not come across this type of question earlier.
Any comments here?I did the same, reduced the overdrqft by the “saved assets” and the increased trade payables,
And then calculated 1 years interest saving @5%June 7, 2013 at 4:03 pm #130405Did anyone NOT inflate due to that was asked only the NOMINAL and the real?
June 7, 2013 at 4:03 pm #130406i applied 10% and 2 % and i got 8% something for irr
June 7, 2013 at 4:07 pm #130409<cite>@leogr said:</cite>
Q1. remember any the amountof NPV;
Q3 whatis the preferred hedging method;for me NPV was 4 million+
and forward market hedge is more preferableJune 7, 2013 at 4:08 pm #130411<cite>@leogr said:</cite>
how did you get IRR 4.7% with 10 and 5% D;
5+NPV1/NPV2x(10-5) should give us certainly higher of 5% ;;(104.5) MV
4.9 Int 1-6 yrs
105 RV 6 yrsGot IRR of 4.7%
not sure why I had both NPVs as -ve.. just couldn’t get the 5% as +ve.June 7, 2013 at 4:08 pm #130412I got negative npv at 5% so it must have been lower. According to my limited calcs
June 7, 2013 at 4:13 pm #130413<cite> @icedawn said:</cite>
btw for the bank , were we supposed to use the after tax interest or just the 4 %?I just took 4% as they are bank loans..all fixed and preagreed. Hope I am right..
June 7, 2013 at 4:17 pm #130414Bank inerest is tax deductible I believe
June 7, 2013 at 4:20 pm #130417In that case I will lose a couple of marks as i just took 4%..
June 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm #130419Hi guys,
In the WACC calc….working out the cost of the redeemable loan note ……in the irr calc for df@5%and 10% for both Npv I got was negative…did anyone get this or maybe I went wrong with the calculator….????.?June 7, 2013 at 4:32 pm #130422Silly mistake I haven’t add the bank to WACC calculation . Q3 working capital I missed a little bit about finance cost, I realised it will take a bit of time to figure out so decided to move on …. Other then that brilliant ,, in general I hate theory but I did memorise some and they were all there up to now my hand still hurts
June 7, 2013 at 4:34 pm #130423Id say you only get 1 mark for introducing tax to bank debt. So thats all youd have lost. Chin up.
And that’s if im right of course. And many many people tell me I never am.
No point in panicking now. Let’s wait for the proper answers. Then we can all panik π
June 7, 2013 at 4:35 pm #130424<cite>@leogr said:</cite>
i agree with you! fmh was 298000+ and mmh was 296000+
because it was a receipt prefer FMHI got exactly the same, forward is more favourable to market one.
June 7, 2013 at 4:37 pm #130425John Moffat,
Thanks alot for the lectures. I was able to apply most of the principles which I learned from you.
Will wait for the results.Kudos to you
June 7, 2013 at 4:39 pm #130427<cite> @greggie said:</cite>
Id say you only get 1 mark for introducing tax to bank debt. So thats all youd have lost. Chin up.And that’s if im right of course. And many many people tell me I never am.
No point in panicking now. Let’s wait for the proper answers. Then we can all panik π
True…Yup. we have to now just wait :). 2nd attempt for me so desparate to pass this time lol..
June 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm #130429What rate did you use to discount the Y3 share price to the current price value?
First two years dividends were suspended, so I applied the dividend growth model for Y3, got the share price in Y3 and discounted it to it’s current price value. I used the 3% rate which was the current dividend growth, I could have used the cost of equity, I am not sure.
How did you do that?June 7, 2013 at 4:44 pm #130432I got +4million for the NPV
8% I think for the WACC but left out bank debt from the Cost of Debt and MV of Debt
Picked Forward Market 298k over MMH 296K
Can anyone remember the marks for Ac’s recievable Management factors? I mixed it up with Working Cap financing- really annoying me cos I had the right answer learned off a few times over beforehand but think just panicked when seen it and got mixed up.
June 7, 2013 at 4:45 pm #130433<cite> @nevyana said:</cite>
I got exactly the same, forward is more favourable to market one.When are the solutions usually published do you know?
June 7, 2013 at 4:46 pm #130434<cite> @united26 said:</cite>
Can anyone remember the marks for Ac’s recievable Management factors? I mixed it up with Working Cap financing- really annoying me cos I had the right answer learned off a few times over beforehand but think just panicked when seen it and got mixed up.6 marks
June 7, 2013 at 4:47 pm #130435AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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my take on this exam
Q1
a) NPV , i cant remember the figures , all i know is a positive one , overall should not be a problem , maybe some clumsy steps here and there
b ) real v nominal , dont really know how i answer it , but maybe i remember the answer from reading BPP study text , should get few marks
c ) financial objectives , this one i just put the company objective aim is to increase profitability and reduce cost , and they want us to link it to the purchasing of the machine , i just wrote what i can wrote , thats all , still can get marks , but no muchQ2
a) WACC , for this i get around 11.8 % , i did not include the preference share ( u shud not ! ) but i did not include bank loan ( if this is really need , arghhh ) . since to find ke on redeemable debt need to use IRR to solve , i just use 10 % and 12 % , bcoz my lecturer said b4 , honestly u dont have the time to find the rite DF , so stick to it , i just follow his advice , so now not sure on that . but overall , do WACC should be ok , may drop 1-2 points , but still ok overall
b) use of CAPM in projects , seriously i dont know anything on this , serious , i just waffle through , but if they give me even 1 mark , i be ok with it
c) why ke is expensive than kd ? that Q i think is not really a problem . tax advantage , equity holders last in line to receive anything in event of liquidation , debtholders confirm get some interest pay while equity holders are uncertain and thus require higher yield . i guess ( and hope ) with the answers that i give can give max points or 1 mark drop will do .Q3
a) working capital policy . at 1st i have no idea wat this Q is on about but i just do some ratio calculations and from there , i discover the word POLICY might ask us to write about aggressive and conservative method ( ? ) . so i just wrote that the company is shifting policy from conservative method to a aggrssive method . and that all what i wrote , thats all . maybe might earn some marks
b)receivables policy . i just wrote about offer credit got a cost , and how a company need to balance profitabilty and liquidity and also the credit control policy about it . not sure whether i am correct or not , but maybe some marks is there , if full , thats good !
c) forex risk . the risk involve are transaction risk , translation risk and economic risk . full marks expected
d) forward and money market hedge . no sweat , full marks once again expectedQ4
( a ) – ( c ) i do not have anything to comment about this partly due to time constraint , so i have no choice but to waffle here and there by just calculate what the Q asked me to do , but hopefully out of 16 marks , 3 will be sufficient for me
d ) Factors to be considered in placing , venture capital and trade bonds . I think this is a saving grace for otherwise a disaster part of this Q which can potentially pull down a lot marks and may make it fail . full marks expectedOverall : I think this paper is a fair paper to deal with , and except Q4 ( a) to ( c ) and Q2 ( b ) , i think and i believe i can go thru with a pass . after countless of times of dealing this paper , this is the 1st time i complete all the Q , with no left empty part on it . But anything can happen , so I just keep by fingers crossed !
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June 7, 2013 at 4:48 pm #130437<cite></cite>
When are the solutions usually published do you know?On the ACCA website but they will not be published soon. They will upload the questions sooner and the solutions are published close to the results announcement.
June 7, 2013 at 4:53 pm #130440<cite> @nevyana said:</cite>
On the ACCA website but they will not be published soon. They will upload the questions sooner and the solutions are published close to the results announcement.Thanks dude for that and the 6m info, thought t was 5 marks, worse then i feared so!
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