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- June 8, 2013 at 8:58 pm #130777AnonymousInactive
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i dont understand why people are saying they didnt increase the units by 9000 units … in the npv calculation you should use 9000 for each year because that is the increment in units .. 9000 to 18000 ..increment of 9000 so use 9000 so forward so forth
June 8, 2013 at 9:00 pm #130778AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @jshields said:</cite>
I seem to have a different answer to everyone else on the money market or forward hedge.
I came upo with the forward option being better as if you borrowed sufficint funds to have €500000 in three months time at an interest rate of 9% on the euro account you could only convert 500000/((9%/12months)x3months) = € 488,997.55 at the current rate the interest due over the three months would take the debt upto the €500000 to be recieved. Then even if you take into account that you would get 4% on that € 488,997.55 you were still better off taking the forward rate.that’s as correct as it can be
June 8, 2013 at 10:44 pm #130794Relating to the volume discussion. In my opinion setting up 9000 units every year was correct approach. But let’s all wait for question release so we can have another cool-headed view.
June 8, 2013 at 10:44 pm #130795<cite>@aneeb123 said:</cite>
i dont understand why people are saying they didnt increase the units by 9000 units … in the npv calculation you should use 9000 for each year because that is the increment in units .. 9000 to 18000 ..increment of 9000 so use 9000 so forward so forthI didn’t think I was right (by taking 9000 units per year) after someone here posted the same thing you did, and I felt pretty stupid for misunderstanding the most basic question, but then everyone else started saying it WAS 9000 through years 1-4 because the figure given wasn’t incremental, it was additional… But hopefully whatever it was it shouldn’t be more than 4 marks (max).
June 8, 2013 at 10:50 pm #130796<cite> @furqan2994 said:</cite>
My paper was all messed up just bcz of this NPV question…I used 1.55 instead of 1.055 for VC ..and my NPV came (7000,000) ….and I wrote comments on this too :p ….later i corrected it but by cutting and overwriting but I don’t know whether examiner accepts re writing and over writing..I made similar mistakes in the WACC and EPS questions (using incorrect figures due to silly mistakes) 🙁
But I crossed the answers out and re-calculated the whole thing… Which eventually cost me 15 marks in the end which I left unsolved 🙁
June 8, 2013 at 11:26 pm #130375ef=”https://opentuition.com/members/narinemalakyan/” rel=”nofollow”>@narinemalakyan said:</cite>
Did you inflated working capital (500,000$) in Q1 a when calculated NPV for the project?
tax relief for WDA was starting with T2, right?<cite> @narinemalakyan said:</cite>
Did you inflated working capital (500,000$) in Q1 a when calculated NPV for the project?
tax relief for WDA was starting with T2, right?<cite> @narinemalakyan said:</cite>
Did you inflated working capital (500,000$) in Q1 a when calculated NPV for the project?
tax relief for WDA was starting with T2, right?<cite> @narinemalakyan said:</cite>
Did you inflated working capital (500,000$) in Q1 a when calculated NPV for the project?
tax relief for WDA was starting with T2, right?Yes I think you just put on the extra amounts for the following years. I think I got 23, 24, 25 and 26! I didn’t recover it as it said another machine would be bought. Not sure if this was right. And yes tax year 2 at 20 percent I think!
June 8, 2013 at 11:26 pm #130585<cite> @donizback said:</cite>
for me WACC was 12.2% looks a decent figure to me,
Q1 i think u r wrong the project was with positive NPV<cite> @greggie said:</cite>
I got an insane npv for q1. 4.9m on a 5.5m investment or something like that. Couldnt see where i went wrong though.The mm hedge I made at around 1900 better. Again, not sure on this.
On wacc I got another ridiculous figure of 8% but I think I messed up bank debt.
I got 4.9m as well bro
June 9, 2013 at 12:35 am #130807For Q3 exchange rate, once the borrowed Euros (€489,000 approx) had been converted to $ using the spot rate, did the question state a $ deposit rate in order to earn interest? I don’t remember seeing one.
Could someone please clarify this, I’m very nervous, think I may have failed, gutted!!!!June 9, 2013 at 12:57 am #130808AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @meaurement said:</cite>
For Q3 exchange rate, once the borrowed Euros (€489,000 approx) had been converted to $ using the spot rate, did the question state a $ deposit rate in order to earn interest? I don’t remember seeing one.
Could someone please clarify this, I’m very nervous, think I may have failed, gutted!!!!I think there was a $ rate of 4% or something like that which became 1% for 3 month apportionment. Don’t know if I am right though
June 9, 2013 at 12:58 am #130809<cite> @meaurement said:</cite>
For Q3 exchange rate, once the borrowed Euros (€489,000 approx) had been converted to $ using the spot rate, did the question state a $ deposit rate in order to earn interest? I don’t remember seeing one.
Could someone please clarify this, I’m very nervous, think I may have failed, gutted!!!!There were 2 rates. The deposit would earn interest that needed adding on to the final figure. And the other rate you would b charged interest on. I wouldn’t worry to much. I didn’t get it first time out hopefully have passed this time around. Did anyone else get 11.25% for Wacc. Easy exam u thought. When will the answers be up. Which options did everyone say we’re worthwhile in the last valuation q? Also measurement I wouldn’t worry you prob only lost 1 mark : )
June 9, 2013 at 1:18 am #130811<cite> @sanjayk said:</cite>
There were 2 rates. The deposit would earn interest that needed adding on to the final figure. And the other rate you would b charged interest on. I wouldn’t worry to much. I didn’t get it first time out hopefully have passed this time around. Did anyone else get 11.25% for Wacc. Easy exam u thought. When will the answers be up. Which options did everyone say we’re worthwhile in the last valuation q? Also measurement I wouldn’t worry you prob only lost 1 mark : )Thanks for your help Sanjay K, much appreciated. It’s my 5th attempt taking this exam so I need as many of those ‘just 1 mark’s as I can! Allah may help me!
June 9, 2013 at 2:25 am #130814AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @meazakiros said:</cite>
could you tell me the answer for financial objectiveMaximise shareholder wealth and reduce financial risk
June 9, 2013 at 2:26 am #130815i am not sure but what i did was, i calculated taking current dividend but as that the 4% growth is after 3 year,the share price u will get is in year 2 time.i then discounted it back to year to year zero.
June 9, 2013 at 2:35 am #130816<cite> @sanjayk said:</cite>
There were 2 rates. The deposit would earn interest that needed adding on to the final figure. And the other rate you would b charged interest on. I wouldn’t worry to much. I didn’t get it first time out hopefully have passed this time around. Did anyone else get 11.25% for Wacc. Easy exam u thought. When will the answers be up. Which options did everyone say we’re worthwhile in the last valuation q? Also measurement I wouldn’t worry you prob only lost 1 mark : )spot rate is given second last line of whole question
June 9, 2013 at 2:51 am #130817AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @evans1301 said:</cite>
Concerning Question 3: The factors for the receivables policy ! I guess the same question came out last year ! Again with 8 marks ! Quite tricky and amazing at the same time. I’ve just elaborated on those factors:
(1) Assessing creditworthiness
(2) Credit limits
(3) Invoice promptly and collect overdue debts
(4) Monitor the credit systemPlease advise if it’s right !!!
I agree with you.
Adddition: 1. Seting a reasonable reveivable policy. ie offer discount payment, fine for late payment, set credit term, consider cost vs benefitJune 9, 2013 at 2:54 am #130818AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @ifrah16 said:</cite>
I used I(1-T) as the cost and the book value as the market value, because I thought the MV would be the same in the case of an untraded loan (i.e. bank loan).. I think that was wrong 🙁All I can say is, I hope we both pass! (Y) 😀
Same to you
June 9, 2013 at 5:58 am #130831<cite> @Sabrina1942 said:</cite>
My friend it’s not one mark u lose more since u r given one mark for correct NPV one for correct selling price and another for inflating itlol you just lose one mark and yea even if your NPV is wrong and you comment according to your NPV that it is positive accpet the project you then also get 1 mark for commenting if u know that your NPV is wrong just assume it. I asked it from my teacher who is a F9 marker 😀 So cheers
June 9, 2013 at 7:09 am #130833<cite>@phamtung said:</cite>
you wrote about the key functions of receivables!! I tihnk the question asked about the faactors to be considered in formulating a receivable policy
such as level of finance cost in receivables, what policies are being adopted by compeetitors, level of expertise , risk accepted etc ,,, there were 7 marks for that question and i dont know how much answer we should have givenJune 9, 2013 at 8:34 am #130841AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I also got WACC of 11.6% also using 5% and 3% for the IRR calc. So long as it was lower than the highest cost of the financing mix components ,it’s likely to b correct.
sabeco68June 9, 2013 at 9:10 am #130843<cite> @icedawn said:</cite>
you wrote about the key functions of receivables!! I tihnk the question asked about the faactors to be considered in formulating a receivable policy
such as level of finance cost in receivables, what policies are being adopted by compeetitors, level of expertise , risk accepted etc ,,, there were 7 marks for that question and i dont know how much answer we should have givenThe question asked about the receivables management policy and it is the credit analysis and credit control and so on
June 9, 2013 at 11:47 am #130858AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I also wrote about credit analysis and credit control and so on
June 9, 2013 at 12:01 pm #130860Q1, How did u guys treat it? The question says we should dicsount using nominal terms approach. I solved it by applying the inflation rate to the varisbles in year 2, is that right guys? I also calculated incremental working capital.
June 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm #130883AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @meaurement said:</cite>
For Q3 exchange rate, once the borrowed Euros (€489,000 approx) had been converted to $ using the spot rate, did the question state a $ deposit rate in order to earn interest? I don’t remember seeing one.
Could someone please clarify this, I’m very nervous, think I may have failed, gutted!!!!you are right because the rate given was Euro borrowing rate… i just wrote that the dollars needed deposited will earn interest uptill 3 months.. just wrote a comment
June 9, 2013 at 2:25 pm #130890<cite> @donizback said:</cite>
The question asked about the receivables management policy and it is the credit analysis and credit control and so onassesing credit worthiness and credit control , collecting amounts due, formulating policy are key functions of receivables
im pretty sure the question asked specifically about the policies surrounding receivables management and not its key functions !! well i may be wrong as well ! cheers i hope everyone will pass
June 9, 2013 at 2:45 pm #130892<cite> @icedawn said:</cite>
assesing credit worthiness and credit control , collecting amounts due, formulating policy are key functions of receivablesim pretty sure the question asked specifically about the policies surrounding receivables management and not its key functions !! well i may be wrong as well ! cheers i hope everyone will pass
Check the past exam paper Ulnad Co. It asked the same question and see the answer 🙂
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