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*** F9 December 2013 Exam was.. Post your comments ***

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA FM Financial Management Forums › *** F9 December 2013 Exam was.. Post your comments ***

  • This topic has 246 replies, 76 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • December 6, 2013 at 5:16 pm #151160
    clevergirl
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    Yes, I used 7% for part B in Q1. I also didn’t inflate it so used up straight values from cash flows. and I think I hate 477 something like that as NPV.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm #151162
    Nizar
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    i think i get 11.43% (if im not mistaken) for the WACC, you should use 12% cost of equity instead of 13% you calculated in the require a). the mv value of the equity is 8m x 7.16, and mv of bonds is 5000/100×103.42 . the discount rate to calculate the irr should be 6% and 5%. the bonds will give interest of 8.5% which after tax is 8.5%(1-0.3).

    for question 3, i got something like 5002 if using EOQ. and 5454 using the current ordering cost

    December 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm #151163
    clevergirl
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    8%??? I didn’t get that!

    Hmmm…

    what was your WACC?

    December 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm #151164
    Nizar
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    the market research cost is a cost that has already incrred, therefore it is a sunkcost hence, does not included in the NPV calculation

    December 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm #151165
    clevergirl
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    @ nizarsalleh I got the same 😀 I got 5002 and 5454 and did the difference for part iii). YES! lol

    Part b) of Q3 I multiplied the price with 60/365 and then 30/365 and took the difference and multiplied with cost.

    I think I was left with 1830.44 something….. Not sure if it’s right?

    And yes wacc o used 12%. wooohooo cos I thought I did wrong.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:21 pm #151166
    zanawi
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    I think the trick is when you calculate the real rate of return.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:22 pm #151168
    clevergirl
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    Well I messed that in Q1 :(. But where did you all put 2000,000? I put that in year 1 🙁

    Still would get marks tho? right? dammm :(:(

    December 6, 2013 at 5:23 pm #151169
    kaish
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    My WACC was 11.43 too so I think it should be ok. As for EOQ, no one averaged the holding costs for the part a?? I did like [(300,000/12)* 140%] / 2 to get 17500 units per month. Was that right?

    December 6, 2013 at 5:24 pm #151170
    neilsolaris
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    The investment should go in year 0. But I would think that only one mark would be lost per mistake.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:25 pm #151171
    clevergirl
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    For holding cost I did 25000/2 + 10,000(this is buffer as it said 40%) multiplied the whole thing by 0.10.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:26 pm #151172
    neilsolaris
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    I did the same clevergirl

    December 6, 2013 at 5:27 pm #151173
    Nizar
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    holding cost should be 25000/2 x 0.1 plus 40% of demand x 0.1 for part a

    December 6, 2013 at 5:27 pm #151174
    Anonymous
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    can any I tell what trearment was there for 200000 cost?????

    December 6, 2013 at 5:28 pm #151175
    geteveryone
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    In question 1, did you all reclaim the working capital? If so, did you add it as a cashflow into year 4 or 5?

    I put 4, but I’ve been questioning it since… seems strange because there is then a working capital outflow and inflow in the same year.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:28 pm #151177
    clevergirl
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    what about the buffer @ nizarsalleh??

    Yay ” neilsolaris

    December 6, 2013 at 5:28 pm #151178
    neilsolaris
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    Was that in question 1 gemini? The treatment was to ignore it, as it was a sunk cost.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm #151180
    kaish
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    It said 40% of sale if I recall. So if you are selling all the 25000 per month. then shouldn’t you add 40% of the 25000 too?

    December 6, 2013 at 5:31 pm #151182
    neilsolaris
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    I recovered the working capital in year 4. I didn’t have any other working capital cash flows in that year though (unless you are talking about the beginning of that year, i.e. 12 months earlier).

    December 6, 2013 at 5:31 pm #151183
    Nizar
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    @clevergirl i edited my post. forgot to mention.


    @geteveryone
    , yes you should recover the working capital as in year 4, your working capital is reduced(recovered) hence, you should recover in year 5. again, if you state your assumption on working capital, you wont be penalized.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm #151184
    kaish
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    It’s in year 4. 🙂

    December 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm #151185
    Alaw
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    Did anyone get 4000 for NPV in question 1a?

    December 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm #151186
    Nizar
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    @kaish ya we included the holding cost of the buffer stock.

    December 6, 2013 at 5:33 pm #151187
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    clever girl i did the same in question number 3 . i did it with current 60/365 and revised 60/365 ……….. and the difference wuld then be multiplied it with finance cost ……. and yeah the interest was 805% (1 minus 30%) gives 5.9 sunthing …… but guess i did mistake in irr ….. i took discount rates of 10 % and 5% …… and for question number 1 , i didnt inflate the nominal cashflows and the rate would be 12 percent …….. but in part b i inflated the sales and costs to general inflation .. and the rate was 7% ………. how was lease to be calculated ? kuz i came u with the decision of buying … kuz it gives sumthing in positive …….. any buddy did same like me ?

    December 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm #151188
    clevergirl
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    I got 3000something for NPV part a). Probably messed up 🙁

    December 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm #151189
    angels22
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    How did you guys treat working capital in question 1?

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