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- June 5, 2015 at 10:37 am #253552
I was confused in the question where it asked the responsibility of audit firm in relation to detection and prevention of fraud I think it is not their primary responsibility right?
June 5, 2015 at 12:04 pm #253596Detection and prevention of fraud is management responsibility not auditors. Auditors responsibility is to design and perform audit procedures responsive to their assessment of risk in the business in order to provide only reasonable assurance that the FSs are free from material misstatement by fraud or error.
June 5, 2015 at 12:29 pm #253605yes. COCA
June 5, 2015 at 2:25 pm #253635In the Bpp Exam kit there is a question in the audit report section that
had a scenario with inventory just like the one in exam.
You all can take a look as to whether it was except for or disclaimer of opinion.
I can’t remember all the facts in the one in exam but you all who have a better memory can compare it.
June 5, 2015 at 7:07 pm #254114I cant recall any of the questions…hope i worked fair enough to pass at least…if only that paper could be accessed online and discuss over this forum just to reduce the suspense of 2 months LOL
June 5, 2015 at 7:31 pm #254147big mistake when calculating the % of materiality i forgot to multiply by 100 thus I got immaterial both sides… big big foolish mistke…ummm hw mch was z mark?
June 5, 2015 at 11:48 pm #254254How u massed up lillit ???
June 6, 2015 at 6:26 am #254284@umar1992 said:
How u massed up lillit ???The last question I did awefully and the rest I dont know. MCQs seemed tricky….I could not remember control elements. I am so sorry I had worked hard and I really dont like audit. The though I have to retake the exam kills me.
June 6, 2015 at 11:30 am #254463Don’t lose hope Lilit anything is possible just wait for the result
June 6, 2015 at 1:08 pm #254493come on just dont give up i guess i did not pass to but who knows 🙂
June 6, 2015 at 1:27 pm #254496Thank you guys )))))
June 6, 2015 at 2:30 pm #254509governance as non exectives they provide additional independnt channel of comunication to EA….if u remeber there was a “should” written and says report to governance.this is not a rule they also report cheif/head of internal audit
June 6, 2015 at 3:13 pm #254517At the ethical question…I think there was advocacy threat when auditors have been asked to help seek directors. What do you think?
June 6, 2015 at 3:43 pm #254525Yes for the one with loan covenants
June 6, 2015 at 4:17 pm #254539I also included the advocacy threat in the ethical question
June 6, 2015 at 4:35 pm #254550A lengthy paper it was !!
June 6, 2015 at 6:36 pm #254598AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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What are analytical procedures funcions?
a)to explore unexpected deviations
b)to obtain reasonable evidence
c)to look if it is in line with auditors expectations
d)to detect material misstatementsWhich of these two are right?
June 6, 2015 at 8:09 pm #254609@gigi1990 said:
What are analytical procedures funcions?
a)to explore unexpected deviations
b)to obtain reasonable evidence
c)to look if it is in line with auditors expectations
d)to detect material misstatementsWhich of these two are right?
To detect misstatement, reasonable evidence is not correct – it sufficient and appropriate. This is why most of us are not counting on 20 marks from the MCQ’s; we may just get ALL incorrect!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!! Calculate your grade from 80, therefore your expectation is reasonable.
June 6, 2015 at 8:22 pm #254612AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@gigi1990 said:
What are analytical procedures funcions?
a)to explore unexpected deviations
b)to obtain reasonable evidence
c)to look if it is in line with auditors expectations
d)to detect material misstatementsWhich of these two are right?
I think a, b are correct
June 6, 2015 at 11:08 pm #254633I think It also said at the planning stage so not to forget that before guessing the answer
June 7, 2015 at 2:28 am #254638@gigi1990 said:
I think a, b are correctThe answer is D – To detect material misstatements, and need sufficient and appropriate audit evidence. Use the elimination rule – easier to determine the correct answer.
Regards,
June 7, 2015 at 3:36 am #254643AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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the first one (receivables) is material but not pervasive, as you can discuss the issue as ‘auditor can communicate with the finance director’ as sufficient evidence that the finance director can resolve the issue in due course, if not before date of the auditor’s report but it will be later on, therefore, there should be modified audit report with qualified opinion since finance director does not want to give any allowance to the receivable balance which means he does not want to adjust the FS (otherise, the report can be modified with unqualified opinion by inserting an ’emphasis of matter’); the inventory issue needs to be discussed as whether the auditor can reply on the work of internal auditor and whether they are independence and competence to prepare ‘inventory court’ such work so that their work can be trusted by the auditor, and if yes, their work can be used as the sufficient and appropriate evidence to be replied on so the auditor’s report needs to be modified with qualified opinion; otheriwse, the new auditor needs to give disclaimer of opinion. so i think there are two opinions for inventory’s issue. What do you think, fellows?
June 7, 2015 at 3:52 am #254644AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@boringaccountant said:
the Significant Change in ownership will cause the auditor to review the engagement , something like that ?and then true or false.. (1)
I think this statement should be False. Because it is the director’s responsibility to prepare the FS not the shareholders and whoever the shareholders are being changed, it is always the director who needs to hold the same responsibility to prepare the FS and auditor holds theirs as same as before. That’s why the auditor does not need to review the engagement letter. Anyone agrees with me please?
June 7, 2015 at 7:11 am #254655THE PAPER IS TOO LENGTHY, 6 QUESTIONS IS TOO MUCH
June 7, 2015 at 8:49 am #254682But I think the exam format now is better than cutting down the scenario questions and increasing the MCQ. 🙂
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