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*** F8 December 2014 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA AA Audit and Assurance Forums › *** F8 December 2014 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

  • This topic has 308 replies, 78 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by Sam123456789.
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  • December 5, 2014 at 5:39 pm #218539
    Hong
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    Your answer is B?
    Why the q12 answer is B?

    December 5, 2014 at 5:52 pm #218559
    Senya
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    Hi, Guys

    My answers below:

    1 b (2)
    2 d (2)
    3 b (2)
    4 c (2)
    5 c (1)
    6 b (2)
    7 a (1)
    8 d (2)
    9 a (1)
    10 b (2)
    11 b (1)
    12 b (2) – incorrect

    What do you think?

    Thanks

    December 5, 2014 at 6:00 pm #218574
    boringaccountant
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    Guys relax… u discussing here wont change a thing !!

    Lol… lets just leave F8 at that… we all know how it was 🙁

    and lets just hope & pray we dont have to see something as boring as “AUDIT PROCEDURE” again 😀

    Back to life ………..

    December 5, 2014 at 6:01 pm #218576
    abbas7796
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    Yes they seem to be correct and 12 was D not B

    December 5, 2014 at 6:05 pm #218584
    Nashad
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    i put down as d as well…
    Can anyone confirm the answer for the following..

    Describe procedures which should be undertaken during the audit of wages as a result of the manager’s
    assessment of the increased risk of fraud.

    December 5, 2014 at 6:10 pm #218589
    abbas7796
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    from the question paper: In October 2014 the financial controller of Eagle was dismissed. He had been employed by the company for over
    20 years, and he has threatened to sue the company for unfair dismissal.

    can this be valid for an audit risk of provision not recognized or contingent liability disclosed?

    December 5, 2014 at 6:10 pm #218591
    Tez
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    I put down for 12 d its an adverse opinion (qualified adverse)but fs assumption is inappropriate and as such fs are incorrect.
    Also not sure why 10 is d?
    I agree for internal audit function I never read anywhere to report to the finance director therefore disagree.

    December 5, 2014 at 6:22 pm #218611
    xlnc123
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    There appears to be a deficiency in the answers provided by open tuition. Describe a recommendation (2 marks)

    December 5, 2014 at 6:23 pm #218614
    xlnc123
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    @abbas7796 said:
    from the question paper: In October 2014 the financial controller of Eagle was dismissed. He had been employed by the company for over
    20 years, and he has threatened to sue the company for unfair dismissal.

    can this be valid for an audit risk of provision not recognized or contingent liability disclosed?

    Yes that’s def an audit risk. I put that one down

    December 5, 2014 at 6:25 pm #218617
    Hong
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    Experienced increase in competition, can I said management might be feel under pressure to manipulate the result?

    December 5, 2014 at 6:27 pm #218618
    xlnc123
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    @wayhern said:
    Experienced increase in competition, can I said management might be feel under pressure to manipulate the result?

    Increased competition
    reduction of Sales price – fewer cash flows and debtors increase due to favourable prices
    And key customer on 6 months credit

    I refered this as a the appropriateness of the use of going concern.

    Perform going concern audit procedures, enquire bank, lawyers etc inspect the cash flows for reasonable assumptions
    Inspect board minutes.

    If the company is not a going concern and produce the accounts on a going concern basis, it’s materially misstated

    Although there is no mention of financial difficulty, the auditor must always consider the assumptions of going concern under IaS1

    December 5, 2014 at 6:29 pm #218619
    Hong
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    But there is any financial difficulty?

    December 5, 2014 at 6:31 pm #218624
    Anonymous
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    MCQ was fair, thumbs up if you got all correct

    December 5, 2014 at 6:34 pm #218631
    xlnc123
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    @kolkleen said:
    MCQ was fair, thumbs up if you got all correct

    The audit risk MCQ was a joke! Haha

    December 5, 2014 at 6:40 pm #218642
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    @xlnc123 said:
    The audit risk MCQ was a joke! Haha

    I think BPP had a similar question which I flunked. So i was careful with this one lol.

    December 5, 2014 at 6:57 pm #218656
    Sam123456789
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    question 10 has been amendment it is B
    but Q3 i have a big problem with coz the suggest answer doesnt make sense. The thing option D is a pre condition of the audit so how can you even get evidence about that.

    Q12 i dont agree with either. the coorect answer should be D as both statements are wrong reagding going concern. i mean if the FS are wrongly prepared and the going concern assumption is wrong, why would you give Qualified opinion, surely you give adverse opinion as the FS are NOT true and fair.

    December 5, 2014 at 7:00 pm #218658
    Sam123456789
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    i have got 15 marks in section A.. if 12 is D than its 17
    but Q3 is realy bothering me as i want atleast 18 or 19 from MCQ

    December 5, 2014 at 7:26 pm #218670
    abbas7796
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    D is correct. i have just confirmed this from a bpp tutor as well. also if you got 17 in mcq then getting the rest 33 from 80 wont be that much of a problem even if your answers for the rest were average.

    December 5, 2014 at 7:28 pm #218673
    Sam123456789
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    yeah your right anas

    but with acca anything can be possible!

    so any extra mark is welcome!

    so its confirmed Question 12 is D

    can you also confirm Q3 for me plz…
    its freaking me out. coz D is a precndition of an audit ://

    December 5, 2014 at 7:44 pm #218680
    xlnc123
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    @usamaniaz said:
    yeah your right anas

    but with acca anything can be possible!

    so any extra mark is welcome!

    so its confirmed Question 12 is D

    can you also confirm Q3 for me plz…
    its freaking me out. coz D is a precndition of an audit ://

    Past paper question

    5 (a) Explain the purpose of, and procedures for, obtaining written representations. (5 marks) Written representations are necessary information that the auditor requires in connection with the audit of the entity’s
    financial statements. Accordingly, similar to responses to inquiries, written representations are audit evidence.
    The auditor needs to obtain written representations from management and, where appropriate, those charged with governance that they believe they have fulfilled their responsibility for the preparation of the financial statements and for the completeness of the information provided to the auditor.
    Written representations are needed to support other audit evidence relevant to the financial statements or specific assertions in the financial statements, if determined necessary by the auditor or required by other International Standards on Auditing. This may be necessary for judgemental areas where the auditor has to rely on management explanations.
    Written representations can be used to confirm that management have communicated to the auditor all deficiencies in internal controls of which management are aware.
    Written representations are normally in the form of a letter, written by the company’s management and addressed to the auditor. The letter is usually requested from management but can also be requested from the chief operating officer or chief financial officer. Throughout the fieldwork, the audit team will note any areas where representations may be required.
    During the final review stage, the auditors will produce a draft representation letter. The directors will review this and then produce it on their letterhead.
    It will be signed by the directors and dated as at the date the audit report is signed, but not after

    December 5, 2014 at 7:48 pm #218681
    Sam123456789
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    yeah i know that!

    but the question sad NOT RELIABLE surey thats for D

    December 5, 2014 at 7:53 pm #218682
    xlnc123
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    @usamaniaz said:
    yeah i know that!

    but the question sad NOT RELIABLE surey thats for D

    Well D is valid

    Quoted from the past paper.
    The auditor needs to obtain written representations from management and, where appropriate, those charged with governance that they believe they have fulfilled their responsibility for the preparation of the financial statements and for the completeness of the information provided to the auditor.

    It’s is appropriate form of evidence.

    But you knew this.

    I don’t see where you are getting the word reliable? It says suitable in the question

    December 5, 2014 at 7:58 pm #218684
    Sam123456789
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    i take your point!

    well cant do anything now

    what about 12 its defo D right?

    i got 17 marks from here!

    December 5, 2014 at 8:15 pm #218695
    tallaghthoop
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    There is a flaw in how question 3 is worded…….c is correct if you read it as the evidence with the least suitable to be represented but d is not audit evidence i read that as a pre-requisite as a representation.

    December 5, 2014 at 8:59 pm #218708
    Anonymous
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    @abbas7796 said:
    D is correct. i have just confirmed this from a bpp tutor as well. also if you got 17 in mcq then getting the rest 33 from 80 wont be that much of a problem even if your answers for the rest were average.

    I hope you’re right about the 33 marks. Cos I wonder why the pass rates are so low

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