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- June 7, 2016 at 8:15 pm #320585
This sitting was a resit for me as last time i got 49% and i feel that although i did horribly in this exam i know i did better than last time around so by that logic i should have passed
June 7, 2016 at 8:22 pm #320588@accastudent1986 said:
I think it ended up as 8600-1500 as 1500 of the loss occurred post-aquisitionSo, 7100 as pre acquisition? In retained earnings you have 5600 as closing figure, then 5600-7100 as adjustment, right?
June 7, 2016 at 8:25 pm #320589@accastudent1986 said:
Yes there were 3 out of 4 options to select;
55% ordinary shares
45% ordinary shares with remainder owned by small unconnected parties
45% where the company would control operating policyAre you 100% sure avout this one? They had two 45% optiins, thats what caught my attention
June 7, 2016 at 8:29 pm #320590Yeah, i made research, actually the one with 45% and others 1% guves control
June 7, 2016 at 8:36 pm #320591Right and isnt th markup of 35% on the cost the profit element and thus the unrealised gain?
June 7, 2016 at 8:37 pm #320592@christa316 said:
Right and isnt th markup of 35% on the cost the profit element and thus the unrealised gain?It is, deduct from parent retained earnings
June 7, 2016 at 8:37 pm #320593Looks like I did it all wrong.
Q1 I deducted 1200 of deferred tax from Net assets of subsidiary this is why I got wrong -2200. I didn’t get negative goodwill though.
I thought question 2 was very badly worded. I read it 3 times and I thought it sounded a bit odd that they want ratios as it continued but yet then to comment on HFS…. to be able to comment on it and compare I would think both before and after ratios should be requested.
Question 3 I fond ok. However, I am not sure if I can say it as I did not manage to complete it. All I managed to calculate few things like contract, loan, assets and input few numbers. Not even everything because I run out time. So I have never managed to get what they asked for.
MCQ – I didn’t find them easy, mainly because there is lots of calculation and as someone mentioned before few obvious no and then very similar answers that is difficult to say which one is right. To add time pressure andI didn’t find the exam easy at all. I would manage to complete it if I had extra 30 mins.
June 7, 2016 at 8:41 pm #320597@april04 said:
Looks like I did it all wrong.
Q1 I deducted 1200 of deferred tax from Net assets of subsidiary this is why I got wrong -2200. I didn’t get negative goodwill though.
I thought question 2 was very badly worded. I read it 3 times and I thought it sounded a bit odd that they want ratios as it continued but yet then to comment on HFS…. to be able to comment on it and compare I would think both before and after ratios should be requested.
Question 3 I fond ok. However, I am not sure if I can say it as I did not manage to complete it. All I managed to calculate few things like contract, loan, assets and input few numbers. Not even everything because I run out time. So I have never managed to get what they asked for.
MCQ – I didn’t find them easy, mainly because there is lots of calculation and as someone mentioned before few obvious no and then very similar answers that is difficult to say which one is right. To add time pressure andI didn’t find the exam easy at all. I would manage to complete it if I had extra 30 mins.
What was your contract working and contract asset?
June 7, 2016 at 8:43 pm #320598Ok show your entire calculation to see if we are on the same page
Correct me if I am wrong but the question went something like this
So it said that the Parent sold some stuff to the Sub at a mark up of 35% to cost.
They then said that cost to the “parent” I guess was 2.43m
so I calculated it like this
Cost + Profit = Total Cost
The markup on cost which is equal to the profit element = 35% + 2.43m = 850,500 (that was my unrealised profit)
I think I misread the question. Since if the cost they had listed was actually to the sub then it it would have been (35/135) * 2.43m = 630,000
Which IMO would make more sense which would then account for my difference.
June 7, 2016 at 8:46 pm #320599@christa316 said:
Ok show your entire calculation to see if we are on the same pageCorrect me if I am wrong but the question went something like this
So it said that the Parent sold some stuff to the Sub at a mark up of 35% to cost.
They then said that cost to the “parent” I guess was 2.43m
so I calculated it like this
Cost + Profit = Total Cost
The markup on cost which is equal to the profit element = 35% + 2.43m = 850,500 (that was my unrealised profit)
I think I misread the question. Since if the cost they had listed was actually to the sub then it it would have been (35/135) * 2.43m = 630,000
Which IMO would make more sense which would then account for my difference.
Christa, what u had to do is just 2.43*35/135 and then subtract from parent retained earnings as PUP, thats it 🙂 it seems u got it right
June 7, 2016 at 8:46 pm #320600I got a profit of 3750
So It was the cost Incurred (which I can not remember)
The profit = Due from customer
Less the amounts the client paid.
I then recorded that as the contract asset. I did not add it to the 5000 that was there
June 7, 2016 at 8:49 pm #320601@christa316 said:
I got a profit of 3750So It was the cost Incurred (which I can not remember)
The profit = Due from customer
Less the amounts the client paid.
I then recorded that as the contract asset. I did not add it to the 5000 that was there
Costs incurred so far were15, u should have added progit to 15 and then substract invoices, but thry difnt give invoice, thats wee i stuck. They said client paid 10, so i assumed it to be invoce
June 7, 2016 at 8:51 pm #320602no got it wrong… based on what you are saying the cost that was on the paper was showing the cost to the sub and not to the parent..
So you answer was 630,000 im assuming
Mine was 850,500 because I thought the amount of 2.43 was cost to the parent… which meant that I did not have to calculate the profit element. Which means I deducted too much from inventory and deducted too much from retained earnings
What did you get for your convertible. I got 2340
June 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm #320604@christa316 said:
no got it wrong… based on what you are saying the cost that was on the paper was showing the cost to the sub and not to the parent..So you answer was 630,000 im assuming
Mine was 850,500 because I thought the amount of 2.43 was cost to the parent… which meant that I did not have to calculate the profit element. Which means I deducted too much from inventory and deducted too much from retained earnings
What did you get for your convertible. I got 2340
Because the paren supplied the goods and they remained in subsidiary inventory, you have pup attributable to parent and calculate accordingly.
Dont remember exactly the loan, but it was pretty straighforward
June 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm #320605I got that too.
I assumed it was “paid” to so i didnt record a receivables
Just the asset . But tbh thats an option you do not have to record the amounts separately
You could lump it all as a contract Income
June 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm #320606sorry assset
June 7, 2016 at 8:54 pm #320607Christa, are you the one from Barbados that have a youtube channel?
June 7, 2016 at 8:55 pm #320608you can have ownership by 50% plus shareholdings
But there are other things to suggest power
there was 1 with only 45% but he was able to govern the policies of the entity.
That is therefore a sub to him too even though he onlt had 45%June 7, 2016 at 8:57 pm #320609Christa, in the hybrid loan, you have to differentiate between liability value and equity option
June 7, 2016 at 8:57 pm #320611@christa316 said:
you can have ownership by 50% plus shareholdingsBut there are other things to suggest power
there was 1 with only 45% but he was able to govern the policies of the entity.
That is therefore a sub to him too even though he onlt had 45%There was also the one with 45 and others 1, also control
June 7, 2016 at 9:03 pm #320613yes please I am
June 7, 2016 at 9:06 pm #320614@christa316 said:
yes please I amLol. I think i have seen one of your videos, accidentally
June 7, 2016 at 9:07 pm #320615lol you arent helping me with my anxiousness about the PurP. What was your figure?
was the cost indicated on the paper cost to the parent or subsidiary
June 7, 2016 at 9:24 pm #320617Was hard and I also got negative goodwill 🙂
June 7, 2016 at 9:28 pm #320619I think I have failed this paper due to my handwriting and also I couldn’t finished in time… I hope the computer based exams will help those who can’t write properly lol
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