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  • This topic has 456 replies, 63 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by accastudent1986.
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  • June 7, 2016 at 7:25 pm #320537
    francilia
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    Not enough time. Too many notes for question 3.Too much calculation for the MC. Question 2 was confusing. Question 1 was perfect. Lucky to get 50%.

    June 7, 2016 at 7:30 pm #320539
    Christa
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    If we both ended up with the cumulative acquisition profit of -1200 it is evident that we both had the same beginning.

    Your -1200 included the post aquksition decrease of -200

    I can not remember all the beg figures. but i remember parts. I normally spit Retained earnings b/f into B/F Retained earnings and then the Profit

    I know for the profit for the year the time apportioned B/F was -1500 with the post also equaling to -1500

    the FV amounts was the decrease in FV with an add back of 500

    Then the intangible asset adjustment with an adjustment being made for the amortization costs

    Plus the FV addition as an asset.

    What was your answer for the convertible loan notes. I think my issue here was too much rounding

    June 7, 2016 at 7:30 pm #320540
    Gvtftf
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    35 on vost is mar up

    @christa316 said:
    But it said it was 35% of cost

    Didnt it say that the markup was 35% of cost… and wasn’t the cost listed as the cost to the Parent?

    Oh thats why I had the difference then. I swore that was the cost to the parent so I calculated the markup to find the profit and that was the PURP

    35 on cost is mark up

    June 7, 2016 at 7:34 pm #320543
    Gvtftf
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    @christa316 said:
    If we both ended up with the cumulative acquisition profit of -1200 it is evident that we both had the same beginning.

    Your -1200 included the post aquksition decrease of -200

    I can not remember all the beg figures. but i remember parts. I normally spit Retained earnings b/f into B/F Retained earnings and then the Profit

    I know for the profit for the year the time apportioned B/F was -1500 with the post also equaling to -1500

    the FV amounts was the decrease in FV with an add back of 500

    Then the intangible asset adjustment with an adjustment being made for the amortization costs

    Plus the FV addition as an asset.

    What was your answer for the convertible loan notes. I think my issue here was too much rounding

    Christa, ehy didnt u have pre acquisition of 7100? 8600 at april 15 minus 1500 pre acquistion loss?

    June 7, 2016 at 7:36 pm #320545
    Gvtftf
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    @christa316 said:
    If we both ended up with the cumulative acquisition profit of -1200 it is evident that we both had the same beginning.

    Your -1200 included the post aquksition decrease of -200

    I can not remember all the beg figures. but i remember parts. I normally spit Retained earnings b/f into B/F Retained earnings and then the Profit

    I know for the profit for the year the time apportioned B/F was -1500 with the post also equaling to -1500

    the FV amounts was the decrease in FV with an add back of 500

    Then the intangible asset adjustment with an adjustment being made for the amortization costs

    Plus the FV addition as an asset.

    What was your answer for the convertible loan notes. I think my issue here was too much rounding

    Christa, about which amortization you are talking about? As far as zi remember, there were no any intangibles

    June 7, 2016 at 7:43 pm #320549
    gavin23
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    You had 45% and no other SH had greater than 1% .. I said that didn’t signify control, hence not a Subsid. Could be wrong though.

    June 7, 2016 at 7:45 pm #320550
    Gvtftf
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    @gavin23 said:
    You had 45% and no other SH had greater than 1% .. I said that didn’t signify control, hence not a Subsid. Could be wrong though.

    It seems i got caught on this one!

    June 7, 2016 at 7:45 pm #320551
    Gvtftf
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    @gavin23 said:
    You had 45% and no other SH had greater than 1% .. I said that didn’t signify control, hence not a Subsid. Could be wrong though.

    What about other mcqs?

    June 7, 2016 at 7:46 pm #320552
    faizsaid
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    yup i remember very well..and you would have missed if you included the 1% shareholding of everyone else as giving control to the 45% ownership. still the 45% can be outvoted in an agm. no control whatsoever and thus not a subsidiary

    June 7, 2016 at 7:48 pm #320553
    gavin23
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    There was a cgu impairment where you wrote off gw first by 7500 and then had to proportion the other 6500 I think between plant and buildings .. They both added up to 100 so was straight forward enough.

    June 7, 2016 at 7:49 pm #320554
    Gvtftf
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    @faizsaid said:
    yup i remember very well..and you would have missed if you included the 1% shareholding of everyone else as giving control to the 45% ownership. still the 45% can be outvoted in an agm. no control whatsoever and thus not a subsidiary

    Any other tricky mcqs?

    June 7, 2016 at 7:50 pm #320555
    Gvtftf
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    @gavin23 said:
    There was a cgu impairment where you wrote off gw first by 7500 and then had to proportion the other 6500 I think between plant and buildings .. They both added up to 100 so was straight forward enough.

    That one was easy

    June 7, 2016 at 7:52 pm #320556
    accastudent1986
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    @emo777 said:
    Is there someone who remembers the mcq about 45% subsidiary control criteria?

    Yes there were 3 out of 4 options to select;
    55% ordinary shares
    45% ordinary shares with remainder owned by small unconnected parties
    45% where the company would control operating policy

    June 7, 2016 at 7:52 pm #320557
    Gvtftf
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    What was your pre acquistion in Q1?

    June 7, 2016 at 7:53 pm #320558
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    Yes there were 3 out of 4 options to select;
    55% ordinary shares
    45% ordinary shares with remainder owned by small unconnected parties
    45% where the company would control operating policy

    I got the same, but are you sure? Other guys say the opposite

    June 7, 2016 at 7:58 pm #320562
    accastudent1986
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    @emo777 said:
    I got the same, but are you sure? Other guys say the opposite

    IFRS 10 states control exists when;
    “holding less than 50% of the voting shares, with all other equity interests held by a numerically large, dispersed and unconnected group;”

    June 7, 2016 at 8:00 pm #320565
    accastudent1986
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    @emo777 said:
    What was your pre acquistion in Q1?

    Q1 on section A? What was question?

    June 7, 2016 at 8:00 pm #320566
    faizsaid
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    I also think you missed the one where we were to state if an asset/liability exists. its not only the warranty claims that give rise to a provision(present obligation), but also the case where it was likely to receive compensation. this gives rise to a contingent asset (which is still an asset anyway).

    June 7, 2016 at 8:01 pm #320568
    accastudent1986
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    @faizsaid said:
    I also think you missed the one where we were to state if an asset/liability exists. its not only the warranty claims that give rise to a provision(present obligation), but also the case where it was likely to receive compensation. this gives rise to a contingent asset (which is still an asset anyway).

    Contingent asset is only mentioned in notes and not capitalised – only if virtually certain

    June 7, 2016 at 8:03 pm #320569
    Gvtftf
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    @faizsaid said:
    I also think you missed the one where we were to state if an asset/liability exists. its not only the warranty claims that give rise to a provision(present obligation), but also the case where it was likely to receive compensation. this gives rise to a contingent asset (which is still an asset anyway).

    Bro, i think u missed it. Agree eith accastudent1986

    June 7, 2016 at 8:04 pm #320571
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    Q1 on section A? What was question?

    Yeah bro, in goodwill calculation, what was your pre acquisition? They had opening retained earnings of 8600 and 3000 loss for the year

    June 7, 2016 at 8:09 pm #320574
    gavin23
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    Don’t see how middle one gives control

    June 7, 2016 at 8:11 pm #320577
    Gvtftf
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    @gavin23 said:
    Don’t see how middle one gives control

    As it was mentiined, IFRS 10 states control exists when;
    “holding less than 50% of the voting shares, with all other equity interests held by a numerically large, dispersed and unconnected group;”

    Also, they gave two optiins with 45%. That seemed fishy to me.

    June 7, 2016 at 8:13 pm #320581
    gavin23
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    Can’t argue with the IFRS … Woh, I was thinking 15 plus in the MCQ’s .. Could be lucky to have 10.

    June 7, 2016 at 8:13 pm #320582
    accastudent1986
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    @emo777 said:
    Yeah bro, in goodwill calculation, what was your pre acquisition? They had opening retained earnings of 8600 and 3000 loss for the year

    I think it ended up as 8600-1500 as 1500 of the loss occurred post-aquisition

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