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- June 7, 2016 at 6:24 pm #320500
I think part 3d was just to identify that the convertible loan note would give a diluted eps as it’s a converible and then discuss the directors worry of it meaning a lower eps in the future. I said future eps depends on profitability and whether conversion actually takes place therefore his worries are not really valid?
June 7, 2016 at 6:25 pm #320501Kevin, for you man. There was a question about capital gearing, the answer was D, risk and smth. Impairment was pretty straighforward.
June 7, 2016 at 6:26 pm #320503@kevikraze said:
I think part 3d was just to identify that the convertible loan note would give a diluted eps as it’s a converible and then discuss the directors worry of it meaning a lower eps in the future. I said future eps depends on profitability and whether conversion actually takes place therefore his worries are not really valid?Kevin, as the reaon i mentiined convertible loan note and dilution bla bla bla. Ceo was overreacting because lower eps was just dilution signal, not a bad performance
June 7, 2016 at 6:28 pm #320505There was also a MCQ number 19 about lower acid test ration. I got D, used cash to buy materials and etc
June 7, 2016 at 6:30 pm #320507Ah that’s right gearing ratio one, and then there was impairment one about how much would be attributed to a certain asset or something, can’t remember except the first 7500 I think went to goodwill then the rest was whatever the fraction was for that asset
June 7, 2016 at 6:30 pm #320508My post acquisiton profits in all was (1200)
(1000) for just the retained earnings and the FV adjustments plus the add backs for FV .
Then a reduction of (200) for decrease in FV
Is that what you guys got too?
June 7, 2016 at 6:31 pm #320509@kevikraze said:
Ah that’s right gearing ratio one, and then there was impairment one about how much would be attributed to a certain asset or something, can’t remember except the first 7500 I think went to goodwill then the rest was whatever the fraction was for that assetAnd you are left with 6500 then make a proportion
June 7, 2016 at 6:32 pm #320510What did you guys get for the unrealised profits,
It as 2.43 million. I calculated the Profit Element
and since all was remaining think it was 35% but i got like 8 something and I was thinking I made an error
June 7, 2016 at 6:32 pm #320511@christa316 said:
My post acquisiton profits in all was (1200)(1000) for just the retained earnings and the FV adjustments plus the add backs for FV .
Then a reduction of (200) for decrease in FV
Is that what you guys got too?
Yeah, -1200
June 7, 2016 at 6:34 pm #320513In MCQ related to condolidated revenue, i ignored bith pre acquidition intra sale and associate revenue
June 7, 2016 at 6:35 pm #320514@christa316 said:
What did you guys get for the unrealised profits,It as 2.43 million. I calculated the Profit Element
and since all was remaining think it was 35% but i got like 8 something and I was thinking I made an error
2.43*35/135
June 7, 2016 at 6:35 pm #320515There was no impairment on Goodwill so I am confused as to why the FV decrease is being deducted. The question specifically said there was no impairment.
The FV decreases happened after the acquisition. It would not be included in Goodwill.
The FV decrease would have been time apportioned between the Parent and NCI
I know the total reduction was (200)
so was 60 % for the parents and 40% for the sub
June 7, 2016 at 6:38 pm #320516@emo777 said:
There was also a MCQ number 19 about lower acid test ration. I got D, used cash to buy materials and etcDarn can’t remember what the other options where, I think I remember the cash used was from overdraft or a loan or smt?
June 7, 2016 at 6:39 pm #320518@christa316 said:
There was no impairment on Goodwill so I am confused as to why the FV decrease is being deducted. The question specifically said there was no impairment.The FV decreases happened after the acquisition. It would not be included in Goodwill.
The FV decrease would have been time apportioned between the Parent and NCI
I know the total reduction was (200)
so was 60 % for the parents and 40% for the sub
Hmm, you have to make (2000) adjustment while calculating goodwill. This will then translate into adding 500 depreciation to retained earnings
June 7, 2016 at 6:40 pm #320519@kevikraze said:
Darn can’t remember what the other options where, I think I remember the cash used was from overdraft or a loan or smt?The variant with ovedraft, you increase payables and decrease them by repaying at the same time, so no change
June 7, 2016 at 6:42 pm #320520when are the mcqs answers from OT
June 7, 2016 at 6:45 pm #320523With cash variant, you by materials, increase inventory and decrease cash, so this seems to be the right option
June 7, 2016 at 6:51 pm #320525Oh yes I did that
decrease by 2500 and added back 500 for the depreciation.
I am talking to the post acquisition reval which ended up with a loss of (200) for the equity instrument.
I was seeing that people deducted that from Goodwill as well
In all I got (1000) loss for just the retained earnings and FV adjustments then there was the (200) for the post acquisition reval
This (1200) was then split between 60% for the Parent and 40% for the subsidiary.
Then for the Parent it included the retained earnings +time apportioned loss + FV increase of 600 – PURP.
What was your answer for PURP
June 7, 2016 at 6:53 pm #320526Oh less the increase for the Finance costs.
For the SOFP – I split my deferred tax asset and deferred tax liability in 2
One for the deferred tax asset for 2500
and I reduce the corresponding liability of 5000 by that same amount
June 7, 2016 at 6:54 pm #320527Hey guys,
For those who got question 3 to balance can you remember the figure? I got $187180. Thanks much and Best of luck
June 7, 2016 at 7:05 pm #320530@christa316 said:
Oh yes I did thatdecrease by 2500 and added back 500 for the depreciation.
I am talking to the post acquisition reval which ended up with a loss of (200) for the equity instrument.
I was seeing that people deducted that from Goodwill as well
In all I got (1000) loss for just the retained earnings and FV adjustments then there was the (200) for the post acquisition reval
This (1200) was then split between 60% for the Parent and 40% for the subsidiary.
Then for the Parent it included the retained earnings +time apportioned loss + FV increase of 600 – PURP.
What was your answer for PURP
Christa, i see your point, but in our case they said that fair value of equity invedtments at acquisition day was equal to carrying value, so no adjustments
June 7, 2016 at 7:08 pm #320531Christa, did you get a pre acquistion of 8600 + (-3000*6/12) which gives 7100? And then in retained earnings, substrct this from 5600 (8600 oprning-loss of 3000 for the year)
June 7, 2016 at 7:09 pm #320532You should have recognized deferred tax asset in goodwill calculation
June 7, 2016 at 7:11 pm #320533Is there someone who remembers the mcq about 45% subsidiary control criteria?
June 7, 2016 at 7:19 pm #320536But it said it was 35% of cost
Didnt it say that the markup was 35% of cost… and wasn’t the cost listed as the cost to the Parent?
Oh thats why I had the difference then. I swore that was the cost to the parent so I calculated the markup to find the profit and that was the PURP
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