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- June 8, 2016 at 9:32 pm #321178
As far as i remember, there were no dividends either
June 8, 2016 at 9:33 pm #321180@accastudent1986 said:
I have 9,200 in P&L under OCI but 8,800 in SOFP.Why would a deferred income liability be recognised? if i’m showing the difference between revenue ($18.75m) and payments received ($10m) as an asset already at a value of $8.75m?
Deferred icome doesnt come from this. It comes from the first note.
Yes, 9200 in pl and 8800 in sfp
June 8, 2016 at 9:33 pm #321181What am i missing then lad?
June 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm #321183Could you,please, give any hints and advises to those who is going to have this exam paper F7? Thanks!
June 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm #321184There was mcq which had an option: gain on revaluation is recognized st the disposal of assets. This statement is wrong, right?
June 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm #321186From the revenue recognition for the product with 4 year service agreement? The product was already sold for $18m and only $16m recognised TD so increase by $2m plus additional $500K for the first year of service element the remainder wouldn’t be deferred would it? If it were then a corresponding asset would also need to be setup
June 8, 2016 at 9:36 pm #321187@almasha said:
Could you,please, give any hints and advises to those who is going to have this exam paper F7? Thanks!Sacrifice one 15 points question that u know worse than the other, do other 15 points whole and 30 points whole
June 8, 2016 at 9:37 pm #321189@accastudent1986 said:
From the revenue recognition for the product with 4 year service agreement? The product was already sold for $18m and only $16m recognised TD so increase by $2m plus additional $500K for the first year of service element the remainder wouldn’t be deferred would it? If it were then a corresponding asset would also need to be setupNo, the point is you have 2000-500 to be recognized as 1500 deferred income
June 8, 2016 at 9:39 pm #321192@accastudent1986 said:
From the revenue recognition for the product with 4 year service agreement? The product was already sold for $18m and only $16m recognised TD so increase by $2m plus additional $500K for the first year of service element the remainder wouldn’t be deferred would it? If it were then a corresponding asset would also need to be setupThe sale relates to a single product and includes ongoing servicing from Downing Co for four years.
So, 16m inludes already those 4 years
June 8, 2016 at 9:40 pm #321193@emo777 said:
No, the point is you have 2000-500 to be recognized as 1500 deferred incomeWhere are you getting those values from?
June 8, 2016 at 9:41 pm #321194@accastudent1986 said:
Where are you getting those values from?2m is total for four years, 500 of which is recognized this year in addition to 18m
June 8, 2016 at 9:45 pm #321197Haha this is confusing me now!
So you’re saying revenue from this sale should be $14.5m ($16m – $1.5m)? and that the $1.5m should be the deferred income liability?
June 8, 2016 at 9:51 pm #321202@accastudent1986 said:
Haha this is confusing me now!So you’re saying revenue from this sale should be $14.5m ($16m – $1.5m)? and that the $1.5m should be the deferred income liability?
16 includes 2000, but should only include 500. So deduct 1500
16 includes other 14000, but it should be 18000. So add 4000167900-1500 plus 4000 is equal to 270400
1500 is deverred income
June 8, 2016 at 9:52 pm #321203I’ve just read the revenue chapter and i think we’re both wrong! Should be as follows;
Total standard cost = $20m
Actual sale price = $16m
Discount = 20% (($20m-$16m)/$20m)Therefore;
Recognition of product = $18m-($18m x 20%) = $14.4m
Recognition of service rev = ($2m-($2m x 20%)/4) = $400KSo current allowable recognition = $14.8m
Current deferred = $400K
Non-current deferred = $800KJune 8, 2016 at 10:00 pm #321210Anyone know the correct approach for question 2? I estimate I’m sitting on about 40-45% excluding question 2 so I wish I could put my mind to rest that I’ve scrapped a pass or not, really could do without resitting this one lol but fear I may have to. Also anyone know the format of computer exams? Is it just going to be the same but with a computer?
June 8, 2016 at 10:03 pm #321212@accastudent1986 said:
I’ve just read the revenue chapter and i think we’re both wrong! Should be as follows;Total standard cost = $20m
Actual sale price = $16m
Discount = 20% (($20m-$16m)/$20m)Therefore;
Recognition of product = $18m-($18m x 20%) = $14.4m
Recognition of service rev = ($2m-($2m x 20%)/4) = $400KSo current allowable recognition = $14.8m
Current deferred = $400K
Non-current deferred = $800KNo, we are not.
June 8, 2016 at 10:04 pm #321213@accastudent1986 said:
I’ve just read the revenue chapter and i think we’re both wrong! Should be as follows;Total standard cost = $20m
Actual sale price = $16m
Discount = 20% (($20m-$16m)/$20m)Therefore;
Recognition of product = $18m-($18m x 20%) = $14.4m
Recognition of service rev = ($2m-($2m x 20%)/4) = $400KSo current allowable recognition = $14.8m
Current deferred = $400K
Non-current deferred = $800KWe used the correct rate of 62.5% which comes from 15/15+9
June 8, 2016 at 10:05 pm #321214@kevikraze said:
Anyone know the correct approach for question 2? I estimate I’m sitting on about 40-45% excluding question 2 so I wish I could put my mind to rest that I’ve scrapped a pass or not, really could do without resitting this one lol but fear I may have to. Also anyone know the format of computer exams? Is it just going to be the same but with a computer?Kevin, how much for mcqs?
June 8, 2016 at 10:06 pm #321217@kevikraze said:
Anyone know the correct approach for question 2? I estimate I’m sitting on about 40-45% excluding question 2 so I wish I could put my mind to rest that I’ve scrapped a pass or not, really could do without resitting this one lol but fear I may have to. Also anyone know the format of computer exams? Is it just going to be the same but with a computer?There a link here showing a specimen f7 Acca paper for the computer based method. Hopefully this will help you get a better idea.
June 8, 2016 at 10:07 pm #321218Incorrect
62.5% is in relation to the contract asset
June 8, 2016 at 10:09 pm #321219@emo777 said:
Kevin, how much for mcqs?Not certain until I can see them all with options but I think maybe 10 or 11 on mcq.
June 8, 2016 at 10:09 pm #321220@accastudent1986 said:
Incorrect62.5% is in relation to the contract asset
Yeah, and whats the problem?
June 8, 2016 at 10:10 pm #321221@samirrules said:
https://www.accaglobal.com/uk/en/student/exam-support-resources/fundamentals-exams-study-resources/f7/specimen-exams.htmlThere a link here showing a specimen f7 Acca paper for the computer based method. Hopefully this will help you get a better idea.
Thanks sami
June 8, 2016 at 10:12 pm #321222@emo777 said:
We used the correct rate of 62.5% which comes from 15/15+9There is no such a thing like discount. And our approach is right. There is something wtong with kaplan
June 8, 2016 at 10:27 pm #321229@kevikraze said:
Not certain until I can see them all with options but I think maybe 10 or 11 on mcq.Optimistic u are about q1 and q3 then!
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