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- June 3, 2015 at 7:20 pm #252710
Cash flow from financing had divs paid. Investing had docs rec’d 300 or 200 from memory. 14m cost of assets. Divs paid (39?) proceeds from sales of invest at 1.4m?
June 3, 2015 at 7:22 pm #252711@chris1975z said:
Did anyone else find it odd in q2 they sold for 1m profit when the division was making 5.8m pre tax profit from memory!? I was useless on revised ratios and commentary left a lot to be desired. Admin expenses shot up 182% like for like? Possibly one off costs for legal expenses for sale? Working capital cycle increase and decrease in debtor days, inventory days and increase in payables days!? Increase in asset turnover in 2015 but decrease in gp margin?For ratios I kept it pretty simple. Restated ratios etc. gross profit 33 down from 37. Op. Profit down from 17 to 10. Cap employed 27 to 21. asset turnover up from 1.5/6 to higher over 2.
Explained that gp had worsened, perhaps a change in selling price looks to be trying to increase sales offering discounts or cheaper goods. Or issue with cost of sales perhaps increased prices. Didn’t have enough to information to expand.
Op profit, worsened mostly due to admin expenses. Although a saving in distribution. Capital employed worsened to decrease in assets, better liabilities, commented this was good all be it marred from the sale of passets again don’t have full picture of information. Said how receivables and Inventory have been rationalised, positive by business.
Explained how the assets they have, are being ultilised well with the sales generated etc then.
Then concluded with business is in a positive shape, need to look into admin costs as to why so high, ensure it doesn’t happen next year. And if they have dropped sales costs need to increase units more as the increase in has just been offset in gross profit.Didn’t have that time but was consistent and short and stated figures, used the key words and concluded. Hopefully 8 or more marks. Wrote about 2 pages
June 3, 2015 at 7:23 pm #252712Did anyone else split finance lease between current and non current in q3? I treated 1m of in advance op lease as prepayment and set up a new line in current assets for same? Wording was a little unclear on that item I thought?
June 3, 2015 at 7:25 pm #252716@chris1975z said:
Cash flow from financing had divs paid. Investing had docs rec’d 300 or 200 from memory. 14m cost of assets. Divs paid (39?) proceeds from sales of invest at 1.4m?I thought it said to ignore investment income so I left out the 500 which was divs rec’d and the gain is operating.
So I had just 3 in Investing and 4 in a Financing. Guess 1/2 mark for each as it was just dragging figures across and was easy marks in fairness.cAnyone got 40,000,000 and something for the eps calc?
June 3, 2015 at 7:25 pm #2527171.6m proceeds of investment actually now I think about it!
June 3, 2015 at 7:28 pm #252720@chris1975z said:
Did anyone else split finance lease between current and non current in q3? I treated 1m of in advance op lease as prepayment and set up a new line in current assets for same? Wording was a little unclear on that item I thought?For leases from memory
B/F Year 1 – 8’000 interest 800 paid 1500 c/f 7300
Year 2 – 7300 interest 730 paid 1500 c/f 65306530 in long terms liabilities and 770 is current.
Op. Leases I messed up. Straight to cost of sales didn’t like the wording at all.
June 3, 2015 at 7:31 pm #252724I’ll be resitting
Totally disaster for me
This us totally unfair. They made consollidation( a material topic) for 15 marks & mcqs again totally disasterJune 3, 2015 at 7:37 pm #252730Surely the deposit paid 2300, was deducted from Fv of 8000. Lease was 5700 then int then repayments. And yes should have been split between cl (repay less interest) and ncl (remaining balance).
June 3, 2015 at 7:37 pm #252731I completely agree.
Nothing I revised for, or did mock exams for was in the exam.
It was my first time sitting a paper exam and I am starting too re-evaluate whether I want to put myself through all this stress.
My headache was bad by the end of the exam I needed to go for a long walk before i felt ok enough to drive home Lol.F8 is going to be just as bad I reckon, as I focussed most of my time studying for F7.
June 3, 2015 at 7:41 pm #252735Simone, chill pill, just need to practice. Everything in exam was in syllabus somewhere, just worded in a way we’re not used to.
Audit is v straight forward, basically analysing scenarios. Good luck to all tomorrow, I turned up 25 mins late in June ’14 sitting and still got 72. Should ace it
June 3, 2015 at 7:44 pm #252738Guy, I got same as you on leases. Deposit off and then do finances, for eps I had 17.7c. Crap of 2.5 and terp of 2.35 for 6 months from memory. 25m x 6/12 x 2.5/2.35.
And then 30m x 6/12.
Just from memory though.June 3, 2015 at 7:46 pm #252740I’m with you Robert, to the pound (or dollar)!
June 3, 2015 at 7:46 pm #252741I totally agree.
ACCA has never been easy but now with MCQs it’s really just a joke as we can’t even gain marks for workings!
Think it’s very unfair bearing in mind how time pressured they are :/Really gutted as it was my second attempt and I’m sure I ve failed again 🙁
June 3, 2015 at 7:47 pm #252743I’d run out of time on EPS,just took my profit and divided by 30,000 to get 23 cents. I know should have done rights issue, but hopefully still pick up a mark for having an answer.
June 3, 2015 at 7:49 pm #252746@chris1975z said:
I’m with you Robert, to the pound (or dollar)!Seems I missed the deposit, rushing!
But again ill get OF for the other bit right through as every bit was correct bar that.June 3, 2015 at 7:50 pm #252748Kasia, to early to say wait for mcq answers to come out, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Chris – convinced you have passed as you seem to have good logic, and similar answers to myself 😉 with more elaboration in places.
June 3, 2015 at 7:51 pm #252750@chris1975z said:
Guy, I got same as you on leases. Deposit off and then do finances, for eps I had 17.7c. Crap of 2.5 and terp of 2.35 for 6 months from memory. 25m x 6/12 x 2.5/2.35.
And then 30m x 6/12.
Just from memory though.I got that calculations, may not have done it all correct think I got the last but wrong. Perhaps 2/3.
Any MCQ’s? I don’t think we even get a copy of them released, this time.
June 3, 2015 at 7:55 pm #252752Disappointing if no MCQ answers released, allowed me to predict that I’d passed F9 in Dec.
How do u know this James?
June 3, 2015 at 7:55 pm #252753Thanks guy…I hope so. Got 89 for f5 but this was much harder!
Adam, I started down that calc but then stopped as it said 1m in advance so i prepaid whole lot. Wording was ambiguous though as I had 1250 to start with and then rewrote it!!June 3, 2015 at 7:56 pm #252755Read that in the F5 section, presume it’s the same
I was pleased with the MCQ’s most were straightforward although took timeJune 3, 2015 at 7:58 pm #252757@jamesuk19 said:
For leases from memoryB/F Year 1 – 8’000 interest 800 paid 1500 c/f 7300
Year 2 – 7300 interest 730 paid 1500 c/f 65306530 in long terms liabilities and 770 is current.
Op. Leases I messed up. Straight to cost of sales didn’t like the wording at all.
Seems you forgot the instalment in advance that was paid right at the beginning
June 3, 2015 at 7:59 pm #252758I need to see answers for the mcqs. I few I found really tricky. I still can’t believe a long question on cash flows or groups. I guess I should be happy as FS long questions I always liked. Can’t get over q2 though. I’ll be happy just to pass – never mind aiming high!!
June 3, 2015 at 7:59 pm #252759@afuyegallas said:
Seems you forgot the instalment in advance that was paid right at the beginningYeah, my bad.
Probably worth 1/2 mark. As leases tend to be worth 1 and a half to 2June 3, 2015 at 8:00 pm #252762Not that much of F5 was applicable here, but nice one.
Imagine P2 is an absolute nightmare based on this. Hoping I’m able to progress and you’re all helping convince me I’ll be ok, low pass probably, no prizes for a high score though.
The associate Q I got 1300, thoughts?
Also the hurricane one appeared to be the right answer by elimination?
Gearing only increased thru finance lease, yeah?
June 3, 2015 at 8:01 pm #252763@chris1975z said:
I need to see answers for the mcqs. I few I found really tricky. I still can’t believe a long question on cash flows or groups. I guess I should be happy as FS long questions I always liked. Can’t get over q2 though. I’ll be happy just to pass – never mind aiming high!!With MCQ’s I found the associates difficult just guessed, the other numbers I managed to get back to okay I thought. Most of the theory I just found the one that was wrong and used process of elimination. I need to see the answers though if possible as If I got 30 would be confident of a pass and can forgot about it.
F9 on the other hand… 🙁 - AuthorPosts
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