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- December 6, 2014 at 6:23 pm #218959
@Tatia
What do you think about Q14. I chose option C ( as shown in the solution below) But now I think it may as well be option A.
Did we not have to depreciate the property from 1 April to 30 September?
14 As at 30 September 2013 Dune’s property in its statement of financial position was:
Property at cost (useful life 15 years) $45 million
Accumulated depreciation $6 millionOn 1 April 2014, Dune decided to sell the property. The property is being marketed by a property agent at a price of $42 million, which was considered a reasonably achievable price at that date. The expected costs to sell have been agreed at $1 million. Recent market transactions suggest that actual selling prices achieved for this type of property
in the current market conditions are 10% less than the price at which they are marketed.At 30 September 2014 the property has not been sold.
At what amount should the property be reported in Dune’s statement of financial position as at 30 September
2014?A $36 million
B $37·5 million
C $36·8 million
D $42 millionOption C ( could be wrong though )
Dep to 1 April 2014= 45000/15=3000×6/12=1500
45000 – 3000 acc dep – 1500 = 40500 CV37800 = 42000*0.90
(1000) = cost to sell
36800December 6, 2014 at 6:28 pm #218960@riskyguy said:
@TatiaWhat do you think about Q14. I chose option C ( as shown in the solution below) But now I think it may as well be option A.
Did we not have to depreciate the property from 1 April to 30 September?
14 As at 30 September 2013 Dune’s property in its statement of financial position was:
Property at cost (useful life 15 years) $45 million
Accumulated depreciation $6 millionOn 1 April 2014, Dune decided to sell the property. The property is being marketed by a property agent at a price of $42 million, which was considered a reasonably achievable price at that date. The expected costs to sell have been agreed at $1 million. Recent market transactions suggest that actual selling prices achieved for this type of property
in the current market conditions are 10% less than the price at which they are marketed.At 30 September 2014 the property has not been sold.
At what amount should the property be reported in Dune’s statement of financial position as at 30 September
2014?A $36 million
B $37·5 million
C $36·8 million
D $42 millionOption C ( could be wrong though )
Dep to 1 April 2014= 45000/15=3000×6/12=1500
45000 – 3000 acc dep – 1500 = 40500 CV37800 = 42000*0.90
(1000) = cost to sell
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Here are my answers workings.
I agree with your q14
December 6, 2014 at 6:32 pm #218961@xlnc123 said:
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Here are my answers with workings
Hmm, are these your answers NOW or did you actually choose the same ones in the exam? We’ve got a lot of matches, and most of them which I got wrong, I think you have them right, you’re going to get a lot of marks from this section.
Anyway, Q20 isn’t C I think, It’s got to be D.
And I am glad you also got C for 14, if I assume this answer to be right, I will get a minimum of 20 marks, thats ok, but still want more 🙂
December 6, 2014 at 6:35 pm #218963@riskyguy said:
Hmm, are these your answers NOW or did you actually choose the same ones in the exam? We’ve got a lot of matches, and most of them which I got wrong, I think you have them right, you’re going to get a lot of marks from this section.Anyway, Q20 isn’t C I think, It’s got to be D.
And I am glad you also got C for 14, if I assume this answer to be right, I will get a minimum of 20 marks, thats ok, but still want more 🙂
These are my exam answers.
I’m fairly confident about the mathematical questions but not sure on the wordy ones.
December 6, 2014 at 6:47 pm #218964@Xlnc
Great job!
Anyway, below is the solution someone provided in another thread for MCQ 17. What do you think about it. Just like you I got the C option though.
seabed restoration: 250X10000
dismantling: 30000000X0.68X1.08 (8% is the increase of the provision for the year)
the two of them together is answer BAnother solution for option B
so we have the restorative cost of $2,500,000
then we need to add the dismantling provision value at 30 Sept 2013 – 0.68*30 mln=20,400,000
however, since we’re interested at the provision amount one year later – ie Sept 30 2014, we need to unwind the discount for 1 year -> 0.08*20,400,000=1,632,000.
when we add these three together -> we get answer BDecember 6, 2014 at 6:53 pm #218967Ah I see
December 6, 2014 at 6:57 pm #218968December 6, 2014 at 7:00 pm #218969@riskyguy said:
Share your vision with me 🙂What do you think. B or C
I still think we are right lol.
December 6, 2014 at 7:02 pm #218971December 6, 2014 at 7:08 pm #218972December 6, 2014 at 7:13 pm #218974@xlnc123 said:
IA we are rightAny other answers that you didn’t agree with
Yes, I don’t really remember my option for MCQ 3, chose A or B maybe. But I think B is the right option. Accumulated depriciaton would have to be deducted from the plant. A new plant and a two year old plant both cannot cost 600,000
December 6, 2014 at 7:15 pm #218975Q7 is D as the finance company has full recourse this receivable should not be written off and must be shown as an Asset in B/S, and the sale proceed as deferred income. I chose B or C though 🙁
December 6, 2014 at 7:16 pm #218976It’s definitely a. On the balance sheet date, it was revalued hence no depreciation would be charged.
December 6, 2014 at 7:18 pm #218978@xlnc123 said:
It’s definitely a. On the balance sheet date, it was revalued hence no depreciation would be charged.It’s not about revaluation. That’s the current price of the NEW plant that we have with us. A new and a 2 yr old plant cannot be of same value.
December 6, 2014 at 7:22 pm #218981@riskyguy said:
Q7 is D as the finance company has full recourse this receivable should not be written off and must be shown as an Asset in B/S, and the sale proceed as deferred income. I chose B or C though 🙁I didn’t choose D as receivables are already an asset.
A is def wrong.
So my process of elimination was B or C
c could be wrong because it’s deferred liability. (Never understood why) but it offsets expenses
December 6, 2014 at 7:23 pm #218982@riskyguy said:
It’s not about revaluation. That’s the current price of the NEW plant that we have with us. A new and a 2 yr old plant cannot be of same value.Fair point.
I read current price as fair value. Current price would dictate replacement cost.
December 6, 2014 at 7:26 pm #218985@xlnc123 said:
Fair point.I read current price as fair value. Current price would dictate replacement cost.
Exactly, I don’t remember my answer though, so not counting marks from this mcq, prudence concept :). But I hope i got it right, I thought abt it a lot in the exam 🙂
December 6, 2014 at 7:29 pm #218986@riskyguy said:
Exactly, I don’t remember my answer though, so not counting marks from this mcq, prudence concept :). But I hope i got it right, I thought abt it a lot in the exam 🙂So HCA is agreed but how do you get the other number? 384?
December 6, 2014 at 7:33 pm #218987@xlnc123 said:
I didn’t choose D as receivables are already an asset.A is def wrong.
So my process of elimination was B or C
c could be wrong because it’s deferred liability. (Never understood why) but it offsets expenses
Option D, how I understand it now is, the examiner is asking us, the receivables were sold to a finance company, but the finance company has full recourse, so should they be (still) recognized as an Asset.
Yes, as the finance company has full recourse they should still be recognized as an Asset, common adjustment in Final accounts question. But well I maybe wrong on this one. I remember choosing one from B or C. A was definitely wrong.
December 6, 2014 at 7:36 pm #218988@xlnc123 said:
So HCA is agreed but how do you get the other number? 384?SP 600000
RV 60000 = (600000×0.10)
Dep. 600000-60000/5 = 108000 x 2 = 216000600000 – 216000 = 384000
December 6, 2014 at 7:37 pm #218989@riskyguy said:
Option D, how I understand it now is, the examiner is asking us, the receivables were sold to a finance company, but the finance company has full recourse, so should they be (still) recognized as an Asset.Yes, as the finance company has full recourse they should still be recognized as an Asset, common adjustment in Final accounts question. But well I maybe wrong on this one. I remember choosing one from B or C. A was definitely wrong.
Hopefully we get more than 50% but question 1 killed me. Doesn’t make sense even after the exam lol
December 6, 2014 at 7:42 pm #218991@xlnc123 said:
Hopefully we get more than 50% but question 1 killed me. Doesn’t make sense even after the exam lolIA, oh yes, Q1 also had me in trouble. I wish the question was just to calculate the same ratios for another company, it would have been great 🙂 But I think we will still get marks for valid points made in discussion even if our ratios were calculated wrong. I think I should have redrafted the P/L, it would have become easier then. But I tweaked only those things that had to be used in the ratios, which resulted in many mistakes.
December 6, 2014 at 7:49 pm #218993@riskyguy said:
@XlncGreat job!
Anyway, below is the solution someone provided in another thread for MCQ 17. What do you think about it. Just like you I got the C option though.
seabed restoration: 250X10000
dismantling: 30000000X0.68X1.08 (8% is the increase of the provision for the year)
the two of them together is answer BAnother solution for option B
so we have the restorative cost of $2,500,000
then we need to add the dismantling provision value at 30 Sept 2013 – 0.68*30 mln=20,400,000
however, since we’re interested at the provision amount one year later – ie Sept 30 2014, we need to unwind the discount for 1 year -> 0.08*20,400,000=1,632,000.
when we add these three together -> we get answer BDont you think that unwinding of discount increases a finance cost (PL) and have not be capitalised? I read it in chapter 2.(Tangible non current assets). different opinions, please share 🙂
December 6, 2014 at 7:59 pm #218994@tatiaaaaaaa said:
Dont you think that unwinding of discount increases a finance cost (PL) and have not be capitalised? I read it in chapter 2.(Tangible non current assets). different opinions, please share 🙂Searched a bit, B is the correct option for Q17 🙁
(Post # 5)
https://opentuition.com/topic/unwinding-of-discount/December 6, 2014 at 8:02 pm #218997Also, Can you share your results about consolidation statements?
MCQ-s and Q3 are my hopes for reaching 50 points. But I am not sure. Anyway, today I have started reading theory book of F7. For June exams 😀
In addition, this was my first ACCA exam and I like the way you are sharing your experience and results. It is very useful 🙂
Thanks all 🙂 🙂
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