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- June 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm #173608AnonymousInactive
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Just realised there is a period of account ending in the tax year 2013/14.
Got that part wrong then!June 4, 2014 at 12:20 pm #173609@mohsinaagha. yea I did the same thing. and i wan’t sure too.
@ everyone else: can anybody help me and tell me that : in Q5 (IHT), do we have to calculate the IHT implications of lifetime gifts, because what I did was just calculate the implication as result of his death + death estate., ignoring CLT as it was more than 7 years ago.June 4, 2014 at 2:11 pm #173748q1 straight forward enough.
q2 messed up and tine apportiined the first year allowance for 3rd conpany.I moved capital loss from 1 to 2 as it cant be relieved against trading loss. moved 3rd trading loss to 1 as paying marginal rate. didnt surrender charitable donation from 3 as not allowed until all income from 3 had been relieved. anyonr agree?
re vat I just apportioned fuel which I think is ok but should really be and input and output I think. for photocopier I only claimed 4 yrs back. but also included jan to march – not sure of that was already included?
q3 straight forward but didnt have any conditions re holdover relief.
q4 & 5 straight forward
June 4, 2014 at 8:39 pm #173970@adam I agree regarding QCD, I didn’t transfer it either.
But I realised I made a major mistake when I got home, I transferred Capital Allowances not Capital Losses Arrrrhhh! Q2 was the last Q I attempted and my brain was fried, not sure how many marks I will lose for it, whole part was worth 17 marks.
@Aleem, I also ignored CLT in Q5 as more than 7years.June 4, 2014 at 9:09 pm #173978for question number 5 you were suppose to bring in the clt deduct the annual exemption for the yr in which clt was made bring forward another annual exemption from the previous year. deduct this figure from the nrb on the date he died. look at the value of pet which was made deduct 2 annual exemptions again look at the value of the pet then deduct the remaning nrb left after the clt 1. allocate the reamining nrb to the pet work out iht at a rate of 40%. once this is done. take out the gross value of the clt which was made . so to determine how much nrb to use in the death estate u would make a column for ur transfers after taking out the annual exemptions take out the clt as 7 yrs have elapsed since transfer was made. from the nrb of 325k deduct the value of pet this is the nrb to be carried forward in death estate.
bring in all the assets owned her property isa’s building society etc.. etc.. deduct the funeral expenses. once u have worked out the value for chargeable estate deduct reamining nrb brought forward from ur previous calculations rest is taxed at 40%. this is what i done lolJune 5, 2014 at 7:18 am #174092@feroz , you are calculating IHT implication on life time gifts, but they asked for IHT implication as a result off his death, but im not sure maybe you are right.
@Sarah , yeah exactly, the same thing happened with me. Q2 last one and brain got frozen so I made so many mistakes,In question Q2 (VAT) do we have have multiply with 20% or they had already done( please say already done haha)?
June 5, 2014 at 12:44 pm #174165AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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So did I. Completely missed that
June 5, 2014 at 12:48 pm #174166AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Altogether not a bad paper. I pray that I pass.
June 5, 2014 at 4:54 pm #174325Hoping I did enough to pass but doubt it’ll be a high percentage.
@aleem pretty certain the figures were VAT amounts so didn’t need to calculate 20%June 5, 2014 at 5:34 pm #174349thanks! that will help.
June 6, 2014 at 3:21 pm #174662For Q1 – for trading income I used the first 4 months and then 8 months from the accounts y/e 30 April 2014. This is because April 13 accounts ends in 13/14 but it is less than 12 months so you need to tax first 12 months of trading.
Q3 – I thought the repairs to the roof was disallowable because the property couldn’t be rented out before doing the repairs so I didn’t deduct from proceeds.
Anyone know when we can view the answers?
June 6, 2014 at 11:19 pm #174901My exam went very well… I dont think the paper was lengthy as I had more than 30 mints to spare at the end. Either I was too good or I missed something. I did a lot of practice though.
Q1 dividends was tricky but got it. The basis of assessment was I took profit of 4 months or whatever it was for the last year and then 8 months profit from the next year given. I think the rest was very easy.
Q2 not sure what I did but I calculated the tax liability for the first company and after coming to wind ltd claimed the capital loss of the first company as group relief…
Because capital losses can be offset against chargeable gains in future chargeable gains and by group releif in the same 75% group which 2nd company had chargeable gains…Q3 chargeable gains went very well and the part b for advising for releifs availaible for the disposals went very good.
It was I think rollover relief gift holdover relief ep relief yea nt sure abt the gift one…Q4 very easy I guess I did all calcs right for the nic contrib..
Q5 in clt I did comp 1 and no iht was payable at the time of the gift as covered by nil rate band and then in comp 2 clt claimed 145000 of the nil rate band and then PET was given the rest of the nrb after a/e of 2 years and the chargeable pet came to around 64000 and then just before the death in 2013 the clt1 drops out and the nil rate band gets back the 145000 claimed by clt 1 and the remaining nrb gets used by death estate comp 3 and the remaining charged at death rate.
June 7, 2014 at 9:32 pm #175083@Aleem you’re right but then in order to calculate IHT as a result of death, is it not necessary to have determined, hence revise, any prior CLT/PETs? Unless I’ve misunderstood the argument, lifetime gifts need to be revised as a result of death. Surely, if there were any CLT gifts within 7 years to time of death, these will impact on the applicable death’s NRB (by way of reduction). So to me, it is a case of one calculation preceding the other 🙂
And oh @Aleem, going by the wording of the question, I think the 20% is already deducted for the VAT question. Please don’t quote me on this particular question though 😛 But seriously, often the way to know whether or not to make any 20% adjustment is to watch out for the terminologies used in setting the question requirement.
For example, when you see questions that state that the “figures are VAT exclusive”, then you are likely expected to adjust for the 20% rate, unless of course it is stated otherwise . As the question used words like “VAT charged” and “VAT incurred”, this is an indication that the VAT rate has already been applied, hence the VAT figures ‘charged’ or ‘incurred’.June 7, 2014 at 9:53 pm #175085@Irshad, my best guess is that you were well prepared for the exam, ‘cos having up to 30 mins to spare in an ACCA exam is an indication that one is adequately prepared, so well done for that.
Indeed the dividend was a bit tricky at first, but like you said with a bit of persistence, one would get the answer eventually.
All the best with the result, cos with ACCA exams, you just never know but be hopeful.
June 7, 2014 at 10:11 pm #175087Thanks….just before the exam last 3 days after revising I practiced almost about 40 mix questions which gave me a good grip.
QUESTIONS ARE NOW AVAILABLE ON ACCA WEBSITE SO PEOPLE UNSURE OF VAT QUESTION AND GO THERE AND HAVE A LOOK. I M WAITING FOR THE ANSWERS TO BE POSTED…
June 9, 2014 at 10:26 am #175344Answer are not normally posted for the exams until the day of the results… or the day just after!
June 9, 2014 at 10:37 am #175348Ohh thats sad to know… may be if open tution can post the solution for it…
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