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- June 6, 2011 at 6:38 am #48949
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June 6, 2011 at 1:30 pm #83020AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i find it was hard for me. Althrough i attemepted every question in the paper, i did not have confidence to say my final result is right , i did show my workings , really feel the time pressure.
June 6, 2011 at 1:35 pm #83021I found it difficult as well. There were some easy aspects but some real horrible things you had to consider. I did past exam papers in 2 hours but with this one I only had 5 mins to spare at the end. Made a bit of a mess with the quarterly VAT dates which I know are now wrong ; ) but apart from that everything else was OK
June 6, 2011 at 1:36 pm #83022I think it was ok…Hard? i won’t say…But it was very tricky!!!!
I was waiting for a more difficult paper…hmm may be that explain…
I’ve done the three last question first…that’s help to get the panik away….June 6, 2011 at 1:37 pm #83023AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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U Cannot pass this F6 paper without knowing Tax administration!!!!……more than just losing nos for tax admin……information presented in paper just confused tht u tend loose much more marks….thn time pressure..panic….loosing grip of known topics….finally reappear….
June 6, 2011 at 1:48 pm #83025AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I spent too long long on q1&2 but they were the core and there was easy marks for NIC.. Q4 Vat was also easy marks and I was glad IHT came up in q5…I studied this expecting it to come up (as it was new to the syllabus). Q3 could be my downfall which I didn’t quite complete.
Question regarding income tax calcucalations….if you go slightly wrong at calculating the taxable income, will you be penalised on getting the tax liability wrong too? Even if you applied the correct bandings/rules/allowances based on the amount taxable?
June 6, 2011 at 1:57 pm #83026essex2herts… don’t worry I’m sure you don’t get penalised twice. I would be really surprised if you did.
June 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm #83027Question 3 was hard for me.
June 6, 2011 at 2:05 pm #83028AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I konw it was too late but can anyone remember how to do the Q1? Did you deduct the impaire receipt from revenue or not ?
June 6, 2011 at 2:09 pm #83029AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i totally agreed !!so much to read before starting the questions , yep all these dates ….
June 6, 2011 at 2:11 pm #83030AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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essex2herts….you wont be penalised twice for a mistake!
paper was very time pressured, question 3 was difficult
June 6, 2011 at 2:21 pm #83031AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I spent alot of time on q1and q2 , q2 alot of tricky things about capital expenditure mixed with capital allowance. Q4 and Q5 looks ok ,but I have not enough time to think about Q3 ? I think i will be lost so many marks on Q3 ?
June 6, 2011 at 2:25 pm #83032AnonymousInactive- Topics: 23
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Bits I can remember:
Question 1
I disallowed 15% of the lease costs of the car as the CO2 was greater than 160g/km. I also disallowed her parking fines as they were payments contrary to public etc (although mentioned that they are normally allowable when your employee incurs them, rather than yourself). I disallowed her apartment costs, the accountancy fees for inheritance tax planning, the gifts to customers (greater than £50 per donee per year), the champagne, and the political donations. I didn’t do anything with the impairment loss recovered, as I figures since she has written it off before, and now has it, it should be taxable.
I only included one of her bonuses as the other became eligible in a previous tax year. She had no personal allowance as her income was way over £112,950.
I worked out the new guy’s NIC at 11%, and the employer’s contributions at 12.8% after the lower limit when he was employed. As a partner I deducted from the profits the two months from before he joined, worked out the 20%, then worked out his class 4 contributions and class 2 contributions.
I can’t remember much more of the question.
June 6, 2011 at 2:28 pm #83033The paper was fair to me, I attempted and finished all question althought there were about two issues i wasnt sure of. Overally the paper was good and expect a fair mark
June 6, 2011 at 2:28 pm #83034The paper was fair to me, I attempted and finished all question althought there were about two issues i wasnt sure of. Overally the paper was good and expect a fair mark
June 6, 2011 at 2:32 pm #83036AnonymousInactive- Topics: 23
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Question 2
I remember allowing all of the industrial building expenditure of the factory, as the drawing section that supports it is allowed and the general offices accounted for less than 25% of the total.
What was the revenue expenditure debited to the capital account? The decorative wall? Or was there more?
The loan stock interest paid I corrected for the opening and closing accruals. I think it came out at £22,000?
With the capital allowances I claimed the AIA first against the lift and ventilation system, transferring a zero balance to the special rate pool. Then claimed the balance of the AIA against the machinery. Cars went straight to the main pool as they were less than 160g/km (but not low enough for FYA). Ignored their private use/pool car aspects.
Property income I corrected for the accrual, and also worked out the part deemed as rent for the premium on the lease.
Can’t remember much more, but I do remember charging CT at 28% as the total taxable profits came out at over £1,500,000.
June 6, 2011 at 2:36 pm #83037AnonymousInactive- Topics: 23
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Question 3
For the entrepreneur’s bit, I think I said Bon didn’t qualify as he hadn’t owned a share for over a year before the takeover, Cherry wasn’t an employee or director so wasn’t even an entrepreneur, and D(?) had less than 5% of the share holding.
I didn’t get through all of the calculations for the second part and can’t remember the numbers that I did get.
June 6, 2011 at 2:42 pm #83038AnonymousInactive- Topics: 23
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Question 4
What I remember about his invoice was it didn’t have his VAT number, the VAT rate, the VAT amount or detail any zero/exempt supplies (noting from his trading history he had made some zero rated supplies).
I think I applied the historical test to his VAT registration bit as it wasn’t made clear that his supplies in January included an invoice for an amount that he knew would push him over £70,000.
I should have revised this more. Don’t think I did overly well.
June 6, 2011 at 2:48 pm #83039AnonymousInactive- Topics: 23
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Question 5
First transfer was a PET, which I reduced by £2,500 marriage exemption and £6,000 for annual exemption for current year and year brought forward.
Second transfer was a CLT but had the full nil rate band of £325,000 to go against it, then I worked out the tax at 25% as he was paying it not the trustees.
Then the death tax I went back to the PET which was now chargeable as it was within 7 years of death. Used the nil rate band of £325,000 against it so there was still no charge. Then carried the balance forward against the CLT again and taxed the excess (although thinking about it I didn’t use the gross figure, damn!) at 40%. No taper relief as under 3 years, minus the tax already paid.
His death estate, added it all up, took off his funeral costs, transferred the £300,000 to his wife as exempt, then worked out the tax on the balance left with no nil rate as it has been used on the PET/CLT.
June 6, 2011 at 2:51 pm #83040@CuriousMeerkat question 2 revenue expenditure the portable partitions needed to be deducted as well as these were not integral to the building. I forgot to adjust for the opening accrual for loan stock interest but other than that i think i did exactly the same as you on all questions.
Q5 was a dream! I was really hoping that we would get a 15 marker for IHT. Thanks to OT that went from being my worst subject to my favourite!!
June 6, 2011 at 2:58 pm #83042AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Really upset that I studied so much for this paper, on the whole i didnt think it was a hard paper as there wasnt much about groups, overseas and the trading dates which i really struggled with but i have still made a balls of it!
My profit came to well over £1500,000 yet i still claimed marginal relief for question 2. im so gutted also question 3 threw me and so did question 4. I made stupid mistakes in question one with the finance leases etc.
Definate resit for me i think 🙁 Genuinely gutted and ive got to do f7 next week which im dreading 🙁
June 6, 2011 at 3:04 pm #83043AnonymousInactive- Topics: 23
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@jwarrick6 said:
@CuriousMeerkat question 2 revenue expenditure the portable partitions needed to be deducted as well as these were not integral to the building. I forgot to adjust for the opening accrual for loan stock interest but other than that i think i did exactly the same as you on all questions.Q5 was a dream! I was really hoping that we would get a 15 marker for IHT. Thanks to OT that went from being my worst subject to my favourite!!
I’m glad you have put pretty much the same as what I have, that makes me feel a lot better. Unless we are both wrong!
Re: the partition walls, I put them as capital expenditure on plant as the examiner went out of his way to say that they were moveable and were moved. From what I remember in the notes this means it counts as plant.
June 6, 2011 at 3:11 pm #83044Question 3 was tricky for me as well. Also got confussed with some capital allowances…Hopefully it will be a pass rate as I atempted 5 questions.
June 6, 2011 at 3:12 pm #83045Question 3 was tricky for me as well. Also got confussed with some capital allowances…Hopefully it will be a pass rate as I atempted 5 questions.
June 6, 2011 at 3:22 pm #83046@curiousmeerkat said:
Question 5First transfer was a PET, which I reduced by £2,500 marriage exemption and £6,000 for annual exemption for current year and year brought forward.
Second transfer was a CLT but had the full nil rate band of £325,000 to go against it, then I worked out the tax at 25% as he was paying it not the trustees.
Then the death tax I went back to the PET which was now chargeable as it was within 7 years of death. Used the nil rate band of £325,000 against it so there was still no charge. Then carried the balance forward against the CLT again and taxed the excess (although thinking about it I didn’t use the gross figure, damn!) at 40%. No taper relief as under 3 years, minus the tax already paid.
His death estate, added it all up, took off his funeral costs, transferred the £300,000 to his wife as exempt, then worked out the tax on the balance left with no nil rate as it has been used on the PET/CLT.
I only used the nil rate band once, against the CLT in lifetime ??
I couldnt remember how to calc the lease in proberty income, was it £68,000 minus the equation ? - AuthorPosts
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