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Excess Depreciaiton & PUP

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • August 30, 2013 at 9:45 am #139327
    ingrid
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    Hi all,

    F7, Mini exercise question 5
    During the year S sold some PPE for H for 65,000. The original cost was 100,000 when new, 4years ago and its useful life was 9 years has not changed. Estimated scrap proceeds of $10,000 was revised or transfer to H to 20,000. Depreciation is charged on a straight line basis with fulll depreciation in the year of purchase and none in the year of sale.

    I understand cost – scrap / useful life = yearly dep’n
    100,000-10000=90000/9=10000×4=400000

    NBV =100,000-40,000=60,000

    The asset was sold for 65,000 giving a profit of 5,000

    the exercise then goes on further to subtract 8,000 from the 60,000 and 9000 from the 65000 giving a pup of 4000 ( This is the part of do not undertand.

    can someone please explain. Thanks

    August 30, 2013 at 6:03 pm #139356
    khonkean
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    please correct me if I’m wrong I think that your confusion is in assuming that the $5k profit was ever real.

    These are two related companies with a transfer between them so that profit is not real.

    Company S has applied $40k depreciation leaving a carrying value of $60k
    The residual value is no longer $10k but $20k therefore if the transfer had not taken place $40k ($60k – $20k) would have been depreciated over the remaining 5 years at $8k p.a. ($40k/5)

    Company H purchased the PPE for $65k with an estimated residual of $20k therefore $45k ($65k – $20k) is depreciated over the remaining 5 years at $9k p.a. ($45k/5)

    Therefore the PUP can be calculated as what is less what should have been or (($65k-£9k)-($60k-$8k)) = ($56k – $52k) = $4k

    Hope that the above makes sense,
    kind regards,
    Shaun.

    p.s. sure that there’s an easier way than the above but thats how my dyslexic grey matter works. Anyone else feel free to improve the above with alternate approaches.

    September 1, 2013 at 5:04 am #139424
    ingrid
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    Thanks Shaun,

    The explanation is quite reasoable and correct thank you very much for your speedy response

    September 3, 2013 at 3:09 pm #139664
    MikeLittle
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    Yes, the easier way suggested by Shaun is to calculate the pup on transfer (5,000) and deduct from that the “extra” depreciation caused by the pup ie 5,000/5 years

    So we’re now looking at 5,000 pup less 1,000 excess depreciation = 4,000 net pup

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