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Do not understand Qualifying Loan Interest

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA TX-UK Exams › Do not understand Qualifying Loan Interest

  • This topic has 8 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by Tax Tutor.
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  • June 28, 2016 at 5:07 pm #324328
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    Hi Sir/Ms,

    I am really confused about the qualifying loan interest to the wording of the text. May I ask a few of the following questions? Thank you in advance for you kind patience. Here they are:

    1. The interest benefit is not taxable if the total of all non-qualifying loans to the employee did not exceed £10,000 at any time in the text year.
    –> What does it mean by non-qualifying loans? Or qualifying loans as non-qualifying will just be the opposite. Are they a group of loans that fall in a certain of categories, or rather any loans that exceed £10,000 is qualifying?

    2. If the interest is only partly eligible for tax relief, then the employee is treated as receiving earnings because the actual rate of interest is below the official rate. {He is also treated as paying interest equal to those earnings. This deemed interest paid may qualify as business expenses or as deductible interest in addition to any interest paid.}
    –> I am completely lost on the two sentences in the parenthesis. Could you help me to understand in a straightforward and in a simple English way?

    3. Example:
    Anna has an annual salary of £30,000, and two loads from her employer:
    a). A season ticket loan of £8,300 at no interest
    b). A loan, 90% of which was used to buy a partnership interest, of £54,000 at 0.5% interest.
    What is Anna’s tax liability for 2015/16?
    Solution provided in the text book:
    Salary:30,000
    Season ticket loan (non-qualifying): nil (not over £10,000)
    loan to by partnership interest (qualifying): 1,350 (£54,000 * (3-0.5)%)
    Total income:31,350
    Less deductible interest deemed paid: (1,458) –> £54,000 * 90% * 3%
    Net income: 29,892
    Less Personal allowance: (10,600)
    Taxable income: 19,292
    Tax liability: 3,858 (£19,292 * 20%)

    How is loan b) applied in this question? It is qualifying, so how one can find out that its interest is only partly eligible for tax relief? I assume this interest is only partly eligible, right?
    And about the deductible interest deemed paid, why is it deductible? How can I see it? also why the interest is 3%, not the 0.5% that was provided?

    Thanks.

    June 29, 2016 at 4:59 pm #324405
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    Hi, can you please help me? I am really having trouble in understanding this. I even went to the gov.uk website for guidance, but seems they do not provide on how to work out the calculation. Thanks.

    June 30, 2016 at 3:57 pm #324481
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    From which study manual are you getting these notes and example as it appears very much more detailed than you need to know at F6. Also in terms of your study method you should concentrate on learning the key issues, such as you will find in the OT notes to prepare yourself to achieve your goal – which is to pass the F6 examination!

    July 1, 2016 at 4:59 am #324507
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    Hi Sir,

    It is from BPP’s latest text book, page 65 and 66. OK, I will try to do that. Thanks.

    July 2, 2016 at 1:23 pm #324585
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    No problem – I think your confusion here is differentiating the employment income assessment on a beneficial loan and the deductibility on the income tax computation itself of qualifying loan interest payments from total income.
    There is a huge amount of detail in study manuals that is why they are several hundred or even 1,000 pages long which is why I suggest that you firstly study what you really need to know from the OT course notes along with the accompanying lectures as they are made available. Once you know and can apply the core rules then by all means extend your knowledge by the use of the study manual.

    October 5, 2016 at 4:07 am #342420
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    @lukayl I have the exact problem you have. What determines a (non) qualifying loan? I also could not make sense of this particular section and example.
    @OT Tutor could you pls explain – in simple language – the de minimis test?

    October 5, 2016 at 5:02 pm #342478
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    Look at my answer above regarding what the problem is – qualifying loan interest payments are those deductible from total income on the income tax computation – see OT course notes chapter 2 section 4, specifically section 4.2
    If an employee is provided with a beneficial loan from an employer and the employee uses it for a qualifying purpose, such as in the example above then no assessable benefit will arise.
    I do not recognise the use of the term de minimis test in this issue by BPP but presume it refers to the exemption that applies where the total of all beneficial loans (EXCLUDING those loans that qualify for tax relief) does NOT exceed £10,000 at any time in the tax year.
    Finally I would strongly advise you to concentrate on knowing the core issues as dealt with in the OT course notes without getting distracted by very fine points of detail.

    October 10, 2017 at 8:05 pm #410264
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    But lets say such issues if they come in our exam,we wont start saying that its not a core issue /opentuiton notes did not have any related notes regarding de minimis test…F6 is just stupidity..so many rules and conditions which are not even practical to non UK citizens..just cramming things which by the time you reach in f8,you have forgotten everything about f6!

    October 14, 2017 at 4:53 am #410888
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    As you have such a low opinion of UK taxation and of our attempts to help students pass this exam then I suggest you go and study a different tax system but certainly do not address any more comments to me!

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