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Dividend pay Sco

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  • May 3, 2017 at 12:08 am #384642
    kengara
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    Hi Mr Mike, it is very important part that i want to ask question and I want to understand it.

    Mantas acquired 80% of the issued share capital of Rochas on 1 January, 2009. Their respective Statements of Comprehensive Income for the year ended 31 December, 2009 are as follows:
    Mantas Rochas
    $ $
    Revenue 26,000 12,000
    Cost of sales and expenses 10,000 7,000
    Profit from operations 16,000 5,000
    Dividend from subsidiary 2,000 –
    Profit before tax 18,000 5,000
    Income tax expense 6,000 1,500
    Profit after tax 12,000 3,500
    Dividends of $5,000 and $2,500 respectively have been proposed.

    Solution:
    Revenue (26 + 12) 38,000
    Cost of sales and expenses (10 + 7) 17,000
    Profit before tax 21,000
    Income tax expense (6 +1.5) 7,500
    Profit after tax 13,500
    * NCI 20% x 3,500=(700)
    profit attributable to owner of parent(MANTAS)12,800
    Dividend Mantas only (5,000)
    =7,800
    Proof M own 7,000 + M’s share of R’s post acq ret’d 80% × ”1,000” =800
    7,800
    Also where did you get ”1000”?

    Here is my question is that if we deduct Pco’s dividend pay(MANTAS) from profit attributable to owner of Mantas 12800-(5000)=7800

    Why we do not deduct dividend pay by Sco (Rochas) 2500 by splitting it into percentage proportionate

    NCI-700-500(2500*20%)=200

    Parent 7800-2000(2500*80%)=5800

    I really need a good explanation because when Sco pays dividend, share of dividend pay of Sco attributable to PCo is deducted only between companies'(PCo and Sco) investment income in consolidated profit and loss statement.

    But in the finding of NCI like

    Profit attributable to
    owner of parent
    NCI(this dividend pay is not deducted from NCI)-why?the question above that i say is the case that i faced when i solved question in BEcker.I solved the question but i did not deduct dividend pay by sco’s NCi share from NCI.

    May 3, 2017 at 7:19 am #384665
    MikeLittle
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    “Why we do not deduct dividend pay by Sco (Rochas) 2500”

    Because that dividend of $2,500 paid by Rochas has not been separately dealt with in the consolidated statement of profit or loss

    When dealing with a subsidiary’s results for the year, we consolidate …

    the subsidiary’s time apportioned, adjusted results down to profit after tax

    But the subsidiary dividend has not been included anywhere in that subsidiary statement of profit or loss – it is shown as an appropriation of profits and is deducted from the subsidiary’s profit after tax to then leave us with the subsidiary retained earnings for the year

    As for splitting it … we do!

    When we allocate the nci share of the subsidiary’s results, we calculate their share of the subsidiary profit after tax

    Say profit after tax was $10,000, the dividend was $2,000, retained earnings were $8,000 and the nci was 30%

    In our calculations we allocate 30% of $10,000 to the nci

    Can you see that that is the same as allocating their share of the dividend (30% x $2,000) plus their share of retained earnings (30% x $8,000)

    “Also where did you get ”1000”?”

    Rochas made profits of $3,500 and paid a dividend of $2,500

    Where do you imagine I found the figure of $1,000 for retained earnings?

    The calculation for the nci on the statement of financial position considers their share of retained earnings

    The calculation for the nci on the statement of profit or loss considers their share of profit after tax

    These two figures are NOT the same

    The difference is the dividend so, when calculating the nci for the statement of financial position, you can (if you wish to do it this way) use their allocation of profit after tax of the subsidiary but then you must deduct their allocation of the subsidiary’s dividend

    The easier approach is to take their allocation of retained earnings … but that’s only applicable for the statement of financial position

    OK?

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