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Dismantling Costs

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • May 22, 2016 at 6:25 pm #316450
    ogg27
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    Hi Mike,

    Can you please advise why dismantling costs has to be capitalised? What is the rationale behind it? Thanks,

    Tess

    May 22, 2016 at 7:26 pm #316472
    MikeLittle
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    Why it’s capitalised? Because Standards say it must be!

    Rationale? The entity is entered into a contract to dismantle. This represents an obligation

    As an obligation it needs to be recognised immediately at its present value

    So Dr Asset
    Cr Dismantling Provision

    As each year goes by, that discounting applied to arrive at present value is unrolled

    Dr Finance Costs
    Cr Dismantling Provision

    Each year the “today” cost of dismantling is assessed, put into the future and discounted

    The “today” cost is likely to change each year – for inflation if nothing else

    The entity’s cost of capital may well change too

    So each year the provision for dismantling will change for:
    1 change in cost of capital / discount rate
    2 unrolling of discounted present value because we’re one year closer to the obligation crystallising
    3 changes in the estimated “today” cost of dismantling

    All these changes go through statement of profit or loss

    Meanwhile the original capitalised dismantling cost is subjected to depreciation over the life of the asset.

    The same net effect would have been achieved simply by creating a provision on day 1 and amending that provision through the passage of time

    But standards say “This is how you do it” so this is how we do it!

    OK?

    May 25, 2016 at 12:53 am #316923
    ogg27
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    Fantastic got it now. Million thanks for this!

    May 25, 2016 at 8:03 am #316961
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    August 6, 2017 at 11:52 am #400726
    bik123
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    Hi Mike,

    I am preparing to P2 but my question is related to above- dismantling costs. According to IAS 37 such cost meet criteria of provision and should be capitalised in Plant and equipment along with let’s say oil platform. That’s fine, but I don’t understand this because provisions are liabilities and we capitalise it in the assets?

    I have impression that this question is stupid but prefer to ask. Thanks Mike for helping out.

    August 6, 2017 at 12:22 pm #400728
    MikeLittle
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    Not stupid at all

    What the IAS is saying is that, instead of debiting an expense account and writing off that expense to profit or loss each year, we instead debit the related asset account with the present value of the dismantling costs

    Of course, by pushing up the value of the asset, we also thereby increase the base upon which depreciation is calculated

    Specifically to answer your question:

    “I don’t understand this because provisions are liabilities and we capitalise it in the assets?”

    Yes, provisions ARE liabilities but where’s the debit entry going to go that matches the credit entry that creates the liability?

    Where’s the debit?

    Answer: it’s in the asset account (instead of being in an expense account)

    Is that better?

    (If you’re doing P2, I have two questions for you

    1) what’s this post doing on P7 Ask ACCA Tutor forum

    2) why is this post not on the P2 Ask ACCA Tutor forum)

    August 6, 2017 at 7:17 pm #400789
    bik123
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    Hi, thank you for your response, it make sense now. I post question there because it is related to questions above and to this thread. Just did want to create new thread for the same topic.

    August 7, 2017 at 7:03 am #400839
    MikeLittle
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    OK!

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