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Depreciation

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FA – FIA FFA › Depreciation

  • This topic has 9 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • June 28, 2015 at 7:12 pm #258998
    Ha
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    Dear John ,
    I have 2 questions about depreciations . Can you pls help me to fix the answer if it’s wrong ? Thanks
    The 1st question is :
    Your firm bought a machine for 50,000$ on 1 January 20×2 , which had an expected useful life of 4 years and an expected residual value of 1,000$ , the asset was to be depreciation on the straight-line basic . The firm ‘s policy s to charge dep’n in the year of disposal . On 31 December 20×3 , the machine was sold for 1,600$ . What amount should be entered in the 20×3 statement of profit or loss and other comprehensive income for profit or loss on disposal ?
    My answer :
    Dep’n expense : 5000- 1000/ 4 = 1000$
    1st year :
    Income stat : Dep’n expense (12/12 x 1000) 1000

    Financial statement

    Balance sheet

    Non- current asset
    Machine : cost 5000$
    Less Dep’n 1000$
    4,000
    2nd year
    Income Statment ; Dep’n expense $1,000
    Balance Sheet
    Machine ; Cost $5,000
    Less ; Accumulated dep’n $2,000
    $ 3,000

    3rd year
    Income Statement ; Dep’n expense 1,000$
    Balance sheet
    Machine cost $5,000
    Less Accumulated dep’n $3,000
    $2,000

    On Dec 31 the machine sold for 1,600$
    Calculate Dep’n expense 12/12×1000$=1,000$

    On Accumulated Dep’N Account
    DR Disposal $3,000
    CR Balance $2,000
    CR Dep’n expense $1,000

    On Disposal Account
    DR Machine account $5,000
    CR Accumulated Dep’n $3,000
    Cash $1,600
    Income Statement-Loss on sale $400

    Is My answer correct ? , and the amount of the income statment in the disposal amount always be ” A Loss for sale” ? Because I did some the dep’n .its alway come to Loss . Thank you

    The 2nd questions :
    An asset register showed a carrying value of $67,460 . A non-current asset costing $15,000 had been sold for $4,000 , making a loss on disposal of $1,250 . No entries had been made in the asset register for this disposal , What’s the correct balance on the asset register ?
    My answer :

    On Disposal account :
    DR car account 15,000$
    CR cash $4,000
    CR Loss 1,250$
    So the Accumulated Dep’n will be (9,750$ )

    On Accumulated Dep’n account
    DR Balance $67,460
    And after this I don’t know how to do . Can you pls help me . Thanks a lot

    June 28, 2015 at 9:41 pm #259013
    John Moffat
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    First question: Your answer is correct if the original cost was 5,000 (you typed 50,000).
    However you must not write down the position each year in the exam – it takes far too long and is not needed. There is a lot of time pressure in the exam and you will not have time to do it.

    Second question:

    The t-accounts and the double entries are not at all relevant.
    The carrying value was 67460

    The asset sold had a carrying value of 5450 (4000 + 1250)

    Therefore the carrying value after the sale is 67460 – 5450 = 62010

    (I am puzzled that you have the questions but have not been able to check the answers. Are there not answers in the same book as the questions? If there are not then you should use a different book 🙂 )

    June 29, 2015 at 7:48 am #259042
    Ha
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    Dear John ,
    There are questions in book before . But I tear those papers already ( I start to regret now 🙁 ) , I’m afraid of looking the answers before completing the questions by myself .
    According to your lecture , I can be able to complete some questions , because this is just my beginning , so I have to write all ( what you taught ) to remember what is it and where its position . I know it’s too long and take a lot of time ( it took me nearly an hours for 2 questions ) But When It comes into my head , then I won’t write down all .
    By the way , can you pls answer my question in the first part ? In the income statement . The disposal amount always be ” A loss of sale ” ? Thanks a lot

    June 29, 2015 at 12:50 pm #259059
    John Moffat
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    No – it will not always a loss on sale, it can be a profit on sale.

    If the sale proceeds are less than the carrying value (net book value) then there is a loss on sale. If the same proceeds are more than the carrying value (net book value) then there is a profit on sale.

    July 2, 2015 at 7:01 pm #259363
    Afrina
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    Dear Sir,

    Pls help me with the following question:

    On 1st January 2012, Joffa purchased a new machine at cost of $96720. Delivery cost were $3660 & internal administration cost of $9450 incurred. At that time Joffa planned to replace the machine in 5 years, when it would have no value and to depreciate the machine on straight line basis.

    Joffa decides on 1/1/2014 that the machine has only 1 remaining year of useful life. There is no expected change to the residual value at the end of its useful life.

    What is the depreciation expense in respect of this machine for the year ended 31/12/2014?

    A. $ 33460
    B. $ 58032
    C. $ 60228
    D. $ 65898

    The answer to this question is C. With workings : 2 * 1/5 ( 96720 + 3660 ) = $ 40152
    Resulting with answer $ 60228.

    My calculation to this question is : Total cost of NCA $100380 ( 96720 + 3660). Initial Dep’n = 100380 / 5 yrs. = 20076. NBV = 100380 – 20076 = $ 80304.

    I’m confused at this point of the calculation.

    My question to this problem is how did the calculation of 1/5 occur when the remaining useful life on 2014 resulted of only 1 year?

    I’d really appreciate it if u kindly explain it to me as there is no explanation to this question.

    Thanks so much for helping.

    July 3, 2015 at 9:17 am #259418
    John Moffat
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    The NBV at 1 Jan 2014 is 100380 – (2 x 20076) = 60227

    There were 2 years of depreciation – 2012 and 2013.

    July 3, 2015 at 3:28 pm #259434
    Afrina
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    Thank you very much Sir.

    July 4, 2015 at 10:06 am #259468
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    February 12, 2016 at 7:45 am #300111
    Leatitia
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    where did you get the 5450? i get 5250

    @johnmoffat said:
    First question: Your answer is correct if the original cost was 5,000 (you typed 50,000).
    However you must not write down the position each year in the exam – it takes far too long and is not needed. There is a lot of time pressure in the exam and you will not have time to do it.

    Second question:

    The t-accounts and the double entries are not at all relevant.
    The carrying value was 67460

    The asset sold had a carrying value of 5450 (4000 + 1250)

    Therefore the carrying value after the sale is 67460 – 5450 = 62010

    (I am puzzled that you have the questions but have not been able to check the answers. Are there not answers in the same book as the questions? If there are not then you should use a different book 🙂 )

    February 12, 2016 at 2:33 pm #300156
    John Moffat
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    It is obvious that I mistyped.

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