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Deferred Tax related to provision for impairment of investment in sub/asso

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • October 1, 2015 at 4:21 am #274365
    Binh
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    Hi Mr Mike,

    I have had a question before about provision (impairment) for investments in subsidiaries and associates/ joint ventures. Now as I understand, such kind of provision, which in my country is tax deductible, is recognized in PL and BS of parent or sub (if D shape structure) but eliminated when consolidated.

    I looked into the consolidation entries of a Big4 firm, they eliminated the provision but also made a deferred tax on total provision value (not only additional provision which is expense in the period). Their entry is:
    Credit Deferred Tax Liability: Total Provision x tax rate (Ex: 100 x 22%)
    Debit Deferred Tax Expenses: Provision Expenses (additional provision) x tax rate (Ex: 20 x 20%)
    Debit Retained Earning: Balancing Figure (Ex: 80 x 20%).

    So, what is the logic behind this entry?

    October 1, 2015 at 9:21 am #274481
    MikeLittle
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    When carrying down a value in a provision account, we calculate the amount that we wish finally to show as the liability.

    But we already have a liability brought forward. The difference between the two (brought forward compared with carry forward) is the movement in the deferred tax account attributable to more or fewer items requiring deferred tax and / or a change in the tax rate

    You say that tax is calculated on the full amount of the provision. Well, it was last year too. If the provision has not increased or decreased, the carry forward will be the same as the brought forward.

    But if there’s a change, then the carry forward on the new calculation compared with the brought forward on the old calculation will result in the difference representing the charge for the year

    OK?

    October 2, 2015 at 5:37 am #274608
    Binh
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    Hm, it is still confusing mr Mike 🙁

    I still do not get why the audit firm made a deferred tax here? Is there any temporary difference? And if yes, when and in what case does the deferred tax liability decrease (unrecognized) ?

    Tks you so much!

    October 2, 2015 at 7:50 am #274643
    MikeLittle
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    Hi Binh

    Simply, I don’t know – I’d need to know more about the practical circumstances of the parent’s investment in the subsidiary and it’s intentions

    Sorry

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