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- December 6, 2023 at 6:19 pm #696263
I had transfer pricing in section C, actually found section B okay but struggled with A & C
Actually left some of section C blank which I’ve never done before!!
Hate this exam soo much??December 6, 2023 at 6:23 pm #696264Part C also involved description of profit center, investment center and revenue center. This wasn’t included in LSBF material study, am I right?
December 6, 2023 at 6:24 pm #696265I think you may have had the same exam as me… Section C I could have cried when I saw it was transfer pricing!
December 6, 2023 at 6:38 pm #696268Always interesting to see what other people had in their section C, and I’m writing a decent detailed impression of mine here below cause I for one really find it useful when others do so.
I also had transfer pricing, calculating the revised profits of the two divisions (10 marks) then asked to comment on how would the transfer price change if one division has doubling demand in the next years (like another 6 marks maybe), and then finally to discuss three benefits of transfer pricing (4 marks). Here on the last one I got completely flustered and went, “for the purpose of goal congruence when it comes to maximising profits of the parent company” and also “for taking advantage of price discounts or other brand deals that a division would not normally achieve elsewhere on the market” (sounds like complete Waffle to me and I couldn’t come up with a third)
Then my second question was on activity based budgeting. The reading and planning part of this exam took me SOOO long because it was not in the usual layout (when it comes to the cost pools and the cost drivers). Very confusing and it had a couple of sub sections on it with extra bitty calculations, probably like 16 marks altogether I’d say. Then finally the 4 marker was to discuss ways that companies deal with risk and uncertainty so I chatted a little about attitudes to risk, expected values, perfect information, trying to tie it back to the study case.
I reckon having seen what some of you guys had in the other version of the questions, (with ROI and ROCE) I’m considering myself a little lucky today. Praying for a pass!
Also section A and B were SOLID. I think I was only absolutely sure on the answer on 15 or 16 questions… x_x
BTW. This is a resit for me. I genuinely genuinely am starting to believe that’s its all down to luck of the draw. (Which is a really sad realisation lol)December 6, 2023 at 6:46 pm #696269Yeah you flex based off activity level and the fixed costs you do for 6 months
December 6, 2023 at 7:22 pm #696272Yeah same section c tp question ?. What was the profit tho ?
December 6, 2023 at 7:44 pm #696273I had the same questions, for the resources I found it quite confusing, the layout and what the question was itself. Very confusing exam overall
December 6, 2023 at 8:38 pm #696276Section A and B seemed ok, but section C got me, it was awfully, I spend so long time on question about budgeting, preparing a budget based on activity. I did not understand it, it was a confusing question. Other question in part C was about transfer pricing, at least a bit more understandable and did make some calculations, so maybe scored some marks for that. This was my first sitting. I really hope, that I managed to get at least 50 marks.
December 6, 2023 at 9:48 pm #696280Was the adjustment for the 2 assumptions at the bottom of the budget needed in budgeting question? I thought this wasn’t a revised budget, but actual budget & the flexed one which is only corrected on direct costs through level of activity?
December 6, 2023 at 10:14 pm #696281I thought overall it was a bit of a tough paper in comparison to previous ones I’ve done.
Section A was pretty tough.
Section B was a lot of variances and ABCSection C- one was on a charity Zedlands (14 marker on analysing performance on 5 set areas) and I believe the can’t remember what the 6 marker was on
The other question was flexing the budget. I messed up on this one as I only divided this by 2 and didn’t flex for the number of units. Hoping I wouldn’t have lost too many marks because of this?:( (10 marks)
4 marker on beyond budgeting
6 marker on the importance on revising budgets (planned and operational) and performance analysisDecember 6, 2023 at 10:29 pm #696283I did the same, as there were 3columns one with original budget( I took the figures from question and divided everything by 2), One with revised budget (I put same figures as original apart the ones with 10%and 5%decrease and 1%increase) and the 3rd was actual already in. I calculated variances and almost all of them were adverse.
Mine is 6th attempt, I keep my fingers crossed ?December 7, 2023 at 12:42 am #696284I missed that budgets were for 6 months. 🙁 that’s why I got all variances adverse. So shame as I though question was quite simple but seems I didn’t read question properly
December 7, 2023 at 6:27 am #696292Guys in Multiple choice questions regarding relevant costing, it was about inventory, did you get 12,220 there?
December 7, 2023 at 8:06 am #696313I think I got the same set of questions as yours,
My section B were: Bottleneck, Incremental and ZBB budgets, Relevant costing
and in C section I got ABC budgeting and transfer pricing
Actually I found section B pretty Fair, However, section C for the ABC budgeting was a shock to me
as I never saw a similat question in past exams, even though BPP revision kit included a similar one, but I mainly focused on RI, ROI, Variances and financial perfromance and I barely got anything related to them. That thearotical question about dealing with uncertainity I was not sure what am I supposed to write? I can’t even comment about the transfer pricing because I do hate it.. and I was praying to get variances over this but life happens. The good thing is that the included multiple of theory questions, praying I get rewarded marks over this to grant a pass.to be honest I found section A a bit challenging comparing to the mock and past papers,
December 7, 2023 at 8:09 am #696314Tell me about it..
I was laughing hysterically when I saw it was transfer pricing. and the ABC Budgeting? what did you do with that question?December 7, 2023 at 8:13 am #696315Same question set as mine,
I think I did pretty well on the theortical questins about transfer pricing system and the uncertainty I was able to write around seven points. But the calulcation part in both I am not sure If what I did is write.
December 7, 2023 at 8:15 am #696316I found section B pretty fair, but section A was challenging especially that only few of them were direct multiple choice.
December 7, 2023 at 8:25 am #696317I revised so hard for Variance and they come out as 2 small questions in Section A. Not even need any calculations. @_@
Session C The transfer Price and ABC budgeting.
TP is quiet challenging. I have no clue.
ABC is madly on spreadsheet. I could not type a sensetense. I don’t know if the table get any marks.December 7, 2023 at 8:33 am #696318You need to do calculations for the first three questions; i found the spreadsheet pretty useful.
The seconed question about uncertainty of student numbers and sales volume wasn’t included in the spreadsheet space.I mainly focused on variances too.. got two questions in section A only
December 7, 2023 at 10:08 am #696324I go that question Budget one and other one was NFP organisation
December 7, 2023 at 11:02 am #696326This is my third time sitting this exam after getting 40 % 45%! Only had one day to study last time thought as I sat tax the day before and did manage to pass that one!!
Really not feeling good about this one. Struggled with section A & C! Thought section B was okay. Didn’t even answer all of section C as I got the ABB and transfer pricing.
The budgeting one seemed too easy so pretty sure I got it wrong – what did you do for that one?
I couldn’t think of any aims of transfer pricing either so just wrote goal congruence and keeping costs lower.
Ah well, just a long wait to results day so let’s try and forget about it and hope for the best.
Good luck all!December 7, 2023 at 12:38 pm #696329Does anyone remember what they got for the ROI and RI figures?
December 7, 2023 at 6:16 pm #696341I got transfer pricing in section C. Disaster
December 7, 2023 at 6:17 pm #696342I think we had the same questions for section C. Transfer pricing was rough. I feel ok about the ABB question though
December 8, 2023 at 12:36 am #696360[QUOTE] was operating profit/(current assets + non current assets – current liabilities). RI was final profit – (non current assets + current assets – current liabilities)*0.08[/QUOTE]
Problem is that when you did this calculation for the other Depots, it didn’t add up to the ROIs or RIs listed in the question. There was defo some other twist to this question
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