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- December 4, 2023 at 9:18 am #695966December 4, 2023 at 4:22 pm #696016
Please is any one can tell me Exam structure, what happened today.
December 4, 2023 at 5:06 pm #696020Question 1 – identify risk of material misstatement
Question was a group structure with an acquisition and disposal and lawsuit and there were deficiencies in internal control with integroup transactions– audit procedures for the disposal
– matters to consider and procedures when using the work of a component auditorQuestions 2 – ISA 260/ 265
Example of deficiencies in internal control and whether to include them in a report to TCWGCritique the extract from the auditors report
Question 3 – ISQM 1
December 4, 2023 at 5:11 pm #696022what did you put sameera for:
work with the component auditor
work on the acquisition of subthings to tell TCWG
EoM paragraphthe deficiencies and improvements of the acceptance process
December 4, 2023 at 6:05 pm #696034I didn’t get that set of questions, I got:
Q1 Business risks 10marks, material misstatements 24 marks, further evidence of a property valuation 6 marks
Q2 Reviewing the audit file before completion – fall in an investment property portfolio, subsequent events with a drop in revenue from strikes, and I can’t remember the other section – did anyone have the same?
Q3 Engagement quality review – the eligibility of a reviewer was 8 marks and then two scenarios on files after a reviewI wish I had gotten the critique of auditors report!
December 4, 2023 at 6:51 pm #696052Don’t wish for that question my brother. It wasn’t about critiquing the audit report. It was about critiquing the EOM draft of an audit report and it was worth 7 marks.
It was a tough question with a very short exhibit.December 4, 2023 at 6:53 pm #696054This is also what I got.
December 4, 2023 at 6:56 pm #696057I had the same as you. Found some parts OK, some parts rough. Wasn’t keen on the ISQM2 as that didn’t feature in the course notes. Just via technical articles. The saving grace on that question was the 2nd part of it, where you had to indivually discuss the quality.
Q1 – lengthy, as always. Found some of it strange and difficult to get my head around due to the industry they were in.
Couldn’t think of a full 7 marks for valuation of property so I think I’ve prob only got half there as I’d stated things that aren’t necessarily for the valuation.Q2 – Found this OK at the start but then started to question myself. And for the audit report impact 5 marker that showed as the last part, I’m sure I didn’t give enough points for the 5 marks.
Main issue, and seems to be for most people, is the absolute time pressure. I literally wrote until the last second. Didn’t get a chance to look back over anything. Insanely time pressured!
How did you find it?
December 4, 2023 at 7:01 pm #696059I made a big mistake on q1 materiality was supposed to be 3.75m but I was thinking ahead too much and put 37.5m moved the decimal point. I had the questions @samerra, the rest of the question was OK but now materiality was all messed up probably get marked down alot because of this.
December 4, 2023 at 7:21 pm #696063I got the question of RoMM only for 22 marks
Why did they show internal and external sales? Should we have calculated materiality on external revenue because it was group? Or on whole revenue normally
December 4, 2023 at 7:39 pm #696066I think I’ve just realised I’ve made a similar error. I had to base it off revenue and I’m sure the total value was 47.5m. I think I’ve put 4.75m as the 1% part incorrectly.
I did say 0.5% and 1% though.
DamnDecember 4, 2023 at 7:40 pm #696068what did everyone put regarding the EoM question?
for materiality i based it on external sales as internal sales should net to 0 in the group i put but could be wrong
December 4, 2023 at 7:51 pm #696071@amariag1982 – I agree, time pressured!! I didn’t get to read over any of my answers either and I also agree the ISQM2 was tough for 8 marks as I hadn’t really covered much of that so deffo didn’t get high marks for this. What risks did everyone put for the JupiterLive question?
December 4, 2023 at 7:51 pm #696072I based on an external sales but said as there were issues with intergroup transactions so figure might have to be amended I said it would be possibly revised once the revenues for internal group were recalculated
December 4, 2023 at 7:53 pm #696073@amariag1982 for the revenue materiality my total was 52.7m which is 263,500 at 0.05% – i set materiality as lower due to this being a new client and detection risk being high
December 4, 2023 at 7:53 pm #696074I had ISQM 1 question – mine did not mention ISQM 2
December 4, 2023 at 7:56 pm #696075Q1
22 Mark ROMM question with no financial information or comparatives – was near enough impossible to do any sort of ratio calcs or margins to add depth to the answer
A few ROMMS I rmr were profit on disposal of 18m should not have been netted off to Opex – it should be in “other income” and it was material
Legal breach probs required either a provision or contingent liability
The disposal of sub was a IFRS 5 discountinued operation as it mentioned each sub was a major line of business
Profit likely overstated if they didn’t split this out as discontinued
For Clarke the parent provided them letter of support to repay any loan they have – needs to be provision or contingent liab probs in group financials
Revenue risk – mark up of 2 % was management estimate – might not be an arms length transaction between subs
Deficiency internal control around intragroup – risk of misstatement with regards to consolidation of recievables/payables
December 4, 2023 at 7:59 pm #696076Overall it was very tough exam the ISQM 1 I hadn’t really gone over I just talked about sufficient direction supervision and review and made points around that
December 4, 2023 at 8:07 pm #696077Yeah, just done the calc wrong. However I did use 0.5% throughout so maybe just the 1 mark lost for stupid error in the calculation.
December 4, 2023 at 8:16 pm #696080Did you get 3.75M for the lower end of the range?
December 4, 2023 at 8:27 pm #696082I’ve made totally the same mistake, described range, chose lower end as listed client and control deficiencies but incorrect calculation. Should be 1 mark less and potentially incorrect conclusions on 1-2 risks on material/non-material, thus I believe potentially 3-4 marks less.
December 5, 2023 at 3:27 am #696092What was the aggregate impact on audit report answer you write
December 5, 2023 at 9:35 am #696124Scenarios:
Poorly given scenarios, not thorough enough. Insufficient financial information, mainly comparatives, to give more detail answer. ACCA wants to examinate business acumen but the questions were not tailored to give such answers. Impossible to give deep answers linked to scenario and business environment.Technical issues:
The word processor doesn’t work correctly. I wrote a paragraph and wanted to change or add something in it, once I started to write the new word the old words were overwritten by the new characters. Poor technical environment provided by the examiner.Conclusion:
Poor service provided for £180.December 5, 2023 at 11:02 am #696137@hellomynameis I had the same technical issue in a previous exam sitting but it only started halfway through the exam – I realised when I googled it afterwards that I’d just accidentally activated the overtype toggle on the keyboard.
I do agree it was very annoying but unfortunately just needed turning off on your keyboard and was nothing that ACCA could help.
December 5, 2023 at 7:11 pm #696179Had the same issue very annoying indeed
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