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December 2011 exam, question 2 part (c)

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • November 22, 2013 at 11:38 am #147374
    neilsolaris
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    Hi,

    I’ve got a question regarding the advancement fee on the revised book value of receivables.

    It states that it will advance 80% of the receivables. Therefore, I worked out the revised receivable balance to be:

    21,300,000 * 20% * 35/365 = 408,493. My logic behind this is that if they advance 80% of receivables immediately, then only 20% will remain.

    However, in the answer, it ignores the 80% advancement in working out receivables, so instead it is:

    21,300,000 * 35/365 = 2,042,466.

    I can’t quite get my head around this. Thanks for your help.

    November 24, 2013 at 9:04 am #147593
    John Moffat
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    There is more than one way of showing the workings.

    What you are doing is fine, and you can work out the interest saving for a drop in receivables to your figure.
    However, then you will also have to show the full cost of the interest payable to the factor.

    The end result (the net cost or net saving) will be the same.

    November 25, 2013 at 10:32 am #147725
    neilsolaris
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    I’m having great difficulty sending this message. It keeps rejecting it, saying it looks as thought I’ve already said that! I’m hoping it might work this time, after the inclusion of this first bit.

    Thanks for your help, I think I understand now! I think my confusion was that I thought for the advancement they were charging 9% of Bold Co’s revised receivables (which is only 408,493). But they were charging 9% of the advancement value weren’t they? Here’s my new workings, I hope it’s right!

    Costs.
    Advancement 12,300,000 * 35/365 * 80% * 0.09 147,058
    Fee 21,300,000 * 0.0125 266,250
    Total costs 413,308

    Savings
    Admin 40,000
    Bad Debts 21,300,000 * 0.009 191,700
    Finance Current Receivables 3,500,000
    Revised Rec 21,300,000 * 0,2 * 35/365 = 408,493
    Reduction in receivables 3,091,507 * 0.07 216,405
    Total Savings 448,105

    Net Saving = 448,105 – 413,308 = 34,797

    November 25, 2013 at 10:36 am #147726
    neilsolaris
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    Hi, thanks for your help, I think I understand. I’ve been trying to send a longer message with my workings, but it won’t let me send it. It keeps saying “Duplicate reply detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!”. As far as I can see I haven’t! I hope this message works.

    November 25, 2013 at 11:09 am #147731
    neilsolaris
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    Now it’s let me send the previous post, I’ll have a go at sending this.

    Basically, to make my calculations tally with the official answer, I had to charge 9% of the value of the advancement (i.e. 12,300,000 x 35/365 x 80% x 0.09 = 147,058). I thought I had to charge 9% of the revised receivables (i.e. 408,493 x 0.09 = 36,764). I think maybe it’s the wording that has made me confused!

    November 25, 2013 at 5:38 pm #147774
    John Moffat
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    Your revised answer is correct.
    The factor only charges interest on the amount advanced – i.e. on the 80%.

    November 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm #147775
    neilsolaris
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    Thanks!

    November 25, 2013 at 5:48 pm #147777
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

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