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December 2010 Exam paper – W4a

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  • February 29, 2016 at 9:15 pm #302685
    Candy
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    Hi Mike,

    I struggled getting my head around the W4a from the exam paper. Can you please remind me where in the original lectures you went over this method?

    Was it in one of the Comprehensive example lectures?

    Many thanks in advance

    February 29, 2016 at 9:20 pm #302691
    MikeLittle
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    Working W4A is the calculation of the nci for the statement of financial position.

    It must be somewhere near the start of consolidations!

    February 29, 2016 at 9:30 pm #302699
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    What I recall it is usually NCI share – 20% post acq retained profit = £190 to Retained earnings.

    I think the calculation has previously been more straight forward with just the 2 lines above.

    I did not realise we could add shares to to value of NCI value at DOA.

    Maybe because you set it out differently it worried me a little bit.

    But thanks

    February 29, 2016 at 9:36 pm #302702
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    To summarise, two methods (but I’m only going to tell you the second so as not to confuse you with two different approaches)

    Value of nci investment +

    Their share of subsidiary post acquisition retained –

    Nci’s share of any goodwill impairment

    February 29, 2016 at 10:45 pm #302711
    Candy
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    Thank you

    I have to let you know Mike, I think my brain is going to explode. I have spent the whole weekend studying and every evening for weeks and am not sure I am where I need to be.

    I just hope I can get over 50%.

    March 1, 2016 at 8:23 am #302756
    MikeLittle
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    To quote Corporal Jones from the programme “Dad’s Army”, “Don’t panic, don’t panic”

    What’s the use of panicking? It is totally counter-productive!

    Just keep practicing, keep identifying where the easy marks are, keep picking up those easy marks – at this stage it should be becoming almost routine. When you look at a consolidation question now, you have a good idea where to start and how to go about the entire exercise.

    Group structure, possibly apportion profits for the subsidiary particularly where profits haven’t accrued evenly, goodwill calculation, pups, retained earnings, nci, associate investment ……

    …. and that’s you ready to bring all the figures together

    March 1, 2016 at 9:15 am #302763
    Candy
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    Thanks Mike,

    You are right as usual.

    P.S. Please move back to England so I can attend your lectures.

    March 1, 2016 at 10:25 am #302779
    MikeLittle
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    Doctors’ strikes, floods in the North, political correctness out-of-control, in/out of Europe, weak sterling, ………

    Hmmm, lots of good reasons to return. I can’t imagine why I could possibly want to live in year-round sunshine away from UK!

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