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dec 2012 Q5b Shawler

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  • This topic has 4 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • October 24, 2016 at 11:42 am #345809
    vapiano91
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    Hello prof,

    This sub question is about creation of provision.

    It says that on a day within the financial year the govt has introduced environmental legislation requiring shawler to fit anti pollution filters anytime within 2 years.

    My question is why would you not create a provision for this? the suggested answer says that there is no current obligation. But i feel that there is a current obligation because

    1) It says it could fit anytime within 2 years, which means today or tomorrow or maybe next year.

    2) filters relate to the main item of their plant. Now assuming that they want to continue their business they ought to fit the filters by my understanding.

    So how is there not a present obligation?

    this is the suggested answer
    “Although the legislation requiring the fitting of the filters has been passed, it does not come into force for two years” where have they mentioned that in the question?

    Second EVEN IF we pay it after two years, arent there situations where we provide for expenses at their discounted present values?

    please help!

    October 24, 2016 at 11:53 am #345810
    MikeLittle
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    “It doesn’t come into force for two years” means that no action can be taken by the government until those two years have elapsed

    What IS relevant is that Shawler has no obligation! They have an alternative course of action available to them which will not involve them in fitting any anti-pollution filters!

    They could close down their operation! So it isn’t the situation that there is no alternative to fitting filters. Closure is an option

    October 25, 2016 at 8:11 am #345935
    vapiano91
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    thank you! 😀

    October 25, 2016 at 8:19 am #345937
    vapiano91
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    ok so what i understood after second reading is-

    asking three questions:

    1) am i required to pay the money?
    2) do i have an option other than paying the money?
    3) is there a reasonable estimate of the cost?

    if the answers pan out as YES NO YES- create provision
    and if YES YES and YES- no provision

    and in similar scenario if it is based on fulfillment of certain conditions and the amount is uncertain, then create a contingent liability.

    is it ok?

    October 25, 2016 at 9:42 am #345944
    MikeLittle
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    That seems to me to be ok, yes

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