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  • This topic has 9 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 5 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • September 12, 2015 at 12:21 pm #271479
    xqho
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    Hi sir

    Wanna ask part b debt to equity ratio computation, the opening balance of equity, why is it 16,000 but not 16,000+ 4,500( which is also the existing equity of Tyche)?
    Thanks in advance .”

    September 12, 2015 at 2:12 pm #271498
    John Moffat
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    Firstly, 4,500 is not the existing equity of Tyche – it is the retained earnings.

    Secondly, and more importantly, Tyche is being sold as a MBO and so the new equity to start if off again as a new company is given at the end of the second paragraph as 12M + 4M.

    September 21, 2015 at 4:29 am #272600
    wlta
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    Dear John,

    In this particular question, May I know how the interest payable is calculated and how to calculate the outstanding loan at the start of the year.

    Thanks.

    September 21, 2015 at 7:12 am #272605
    John Moffat
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    The initial loan is 81M (market value) – 12M (from managers) – 4M (from venture capital) = 65M

    The interest is at 9%. So the first years interest is 9% x 65M = 5.85M

    They pay back 3M a year, so the amount owing at the start of the second year is 65 – 3 = 62M.
    So the interest in the second year is 62M x 9% = 5.58M

    The amount owing at the start of the third year is 62 – 3 = 59M
    So the interest in the third year is 59M x 9% = 5.31M

    And so on…… 🙂

    September 21, 2015 at 7:13 am #272607
    wlta
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    Thank you John for your answer. That is really helpful. Thanks a lot!

    September 21, 2015 at 4:58 pm #272660
    John Moffat
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    You are very welcome 🙂

    February 16, 2020 at 2:13 pm #562009
    rimshy
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    John i am.bit confused that if the initial amount of loan is 65m and they are paying interest of 9% ie 5.85m so will the loan amount outstanding at the year end not be 59.8m ?
    And secondly while calculating debt to equity ratio for yr 1 why have we taken 62m and not 65m as initial loan amount was 65 m ?

    February 16, 2020 at 4:49 pm #562023
    John Moffat
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    If you borrow money you have to pay interest on it. Paying interest on it does not reduce the amount owing – you still owe the full amount of the loan unless you repay some of the loan (and here they do repay 3M a year).

    The question says that the debt-equity ratios are as at the end of each year for purposes of checking on the covenant. At the end of the first year they owed 62M because they have repaid 3M.

    February 16, 2020 at 8:37 pm #562046
    rimshy
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    Okay thanks john but if it would not have been written in the question ie at the end of each year so are we supposed to take the amounts at the start of year ?

    February 17, 2020 at 5:49 am #562068
    John Moffat
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    We normally calculate the ratio at the end of the year, but any covenant would have to state when it was to be measured and so the question would have to tell you also.

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