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Contract Losses

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  • This topic has 9 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • February 17, 2016 at 12:29 pm #300803
    abdulbasit16
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    Sugar has entered into a long-term contract to build an asset for a customer, Hewer. Sugar will satisfy the performance obligation over time and has measured the progress towards satisfying the performance obligation at 45% at the year end.
    The price of the contract is $8 million. Sugar has spent $4.5 million to date, but the estimated costs to complete are $5.5 million. To date, Hewer has paid Sugar $3 million.
    What items should be recorded in Sugar’s statement of financial position?

    A Trade receivable/contract asset $600,000 Contract liability $500,000
    B Trade receivable/contract asset $5 million Provision $1,100,000
    C No asset Contract liability $500,000
    D Trade receivable/contract asset $600,000 Provision $1,100,000

    Sir by my calculations the answer should be C. Costs to date-Loss-Amount received = Contract liability of 500000 and no asset as no amount has been invoiced yet.
    But the answer is given a D. and reason given(There is a trade receivable of $600,000. The amount recorded in revenue will be $3,600,000 (45% × $8 million price). Hewer has paid $3 million, leaving $600,000 in receivables.
    As the contract is loss-making, Sugar should record the full loss immediately. As the full loss needs to be recorded immediately, $5,600,000 should be taken to cost of sales. As only $4.5 million has been spent on costs to date, this means that a provision of $1.1 million must be included in the statement of financial position.)

    February 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm #300828
    MikeLittle
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    Hmmm, that’s interesting.

    I see where the answer is getting the figures from but I’m leaning towards answer C too

    I have to admit not having seen a worked example of IFRS 15 to date so I’m wondering whether this is the application of that IFRS.

    Where’s the question from?

    February 17, 2016 at 3:47 pm #300829
    abdulbasit16
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    Its from the Kaplan kit.

    February 17, 2016 at 3:51 pm #300834
    MikeLittle
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    Is there nothing in the Kaplan study text to guide you with reference to revenue calculations under IFRS 15?

    February 17, 2016 at 4:01 pm #300836
    abdulbasit16
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    It obv. does and suggests the answer as C too.

    February 17, 2016 at 4:41 pm #300847
    MikeLittle
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    Can you please confirm what you have just posted – the method identified in the Kaplan text comes up with the answer C!

    Are you really, really sure?

    February 17, 2016 at 5:15 pm #300851
    abdulbasit16
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    Oh sorry I didn’t mention BPP. I’ve studied from bpp but doing both kits for questions not mentioned in either of them. I guess kaplan has different rule prolly for contract losses.

    February 17, 2016 at 7:42 pm #300863
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    “Oh sorry I didn’t mention BPP” where has this suddenly sprung from?

    Is the printed solution C or not?

    February 17, 2016 at 8:14 pm #300873
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    Sir the thing you said abt study text explaning IFRS 15. I was referring to that, that I don’t have a kaplan study text, i use bpp’s. But I use two kits for revision and the question is from kaplan kit and answer is given as D. But the answer contradicts the explanation given in the bpp study text for that question.

    February 18, 2016 at 7:11 am #300918
    MikeLittle
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    I would go with BPP for that one.

    But how confusing!

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