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  • This topic has 11 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • March 11, 2014 at 7:09 am #162021
    xMa87x
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    Hi,

    I have a parent ABC who on 1 Jan 05 purchased 75% of the issued share capital of XYZ when retained earnings were £72k.

    ABC BS as at 30 Sep 06:
    R&D 230
    Goodwill (Purchased) 48
    Goodwill (Unpurchased) 50
    Investment in XYZ 525

    Share Capital 6000
    Retained Earnings 1344

    XYZ BS as at 30 Sep 06:
    Share Capital 800
    Retained Earnings 472

    1) When calculating goodwill I’m getting 129 negative, nothing close to the 48 and 50 in the BS.

    Consideration 525
    FV NCI (25% x 872) 218
    743

    Net Assets Acquired 800
    Retained Earnings 72
    872
    Goodwill -129

    2) ABC has inventory of 594 as at 30 Sep 06, which include goods worth 108 bought from XYZ at manufacturing cost + 50%

    Can you shed some light on the calculations please?

    Thanks!

    March 11, 2014 at 3:12 pm #162061
    MikeLittle
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    I’m getting 129 negative too!

    Pup of 50/150 x 108 = 36 pup to be deducted from combined inventory and from XYZ retained earnings

    Ok?

    Chef the information that you have given for the goodwill calculations – for example, is the nci on a full fair value basis rather than proportional?

    March 11, 2014 at 4:37 pm #162077
    xMa87x
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    Thanks for your feedback!

    Re: Stock I’ve worked it in the meantime and got 36 too
    (Dr: Revenue 108, Cr: COGS 72, Cr: Stock 36)

    How should I account for negative goodwill given the limited info?
    Re: NCI method to use, the question doesn’t specify either of which to use, except that to prepare the financial statements using the acquisition method… How would I know which of the 2 methods to use please?

    I have jot it down as:
    NCI Working
    FV NCI at acq 218
    NCI post-acq (25% x 400) 100
    Total 318

    Group RE Working
    ABC RE 1344
    XYZ RE 300
    Total 1644

    Thank you!

    March 11, 2014 at 6:38 pm #162089
    MikeLittle
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    The question will tell you whether to use proportionate method or full, fair value method.

    I think there are one or two examples in the course notes where I tell students to assume proportionate method if nothing is stated in the question. Those examples are in the notes to illustrate other principles and goodwill / nci calculation is not the main point of those exercises

    March 12, 2014 at 10:13 am #162119
    xMa87x
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    I will need to prepare the BS and PL for this so I will still need to do their calculations…

    Are the above calculations correct workings given the information provided?

    Also please is there a suggested approach how to account for negative goodwill?

    Thanks!

    March 12, 2014 at 6:48 pm #162168
    MikeLittle
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    Your workings seem to be ok.

    As for negative goodwill, it should be credited to retained earnings at the first opportunity ie in the first year end accounts after negative goodwill arose. This treatment is undertaken AFTER a review as at consolidation date of the fair values of the assets acquired

    March 13, 2014 at 3:33 am #162187
    xMa87x
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    Thanks a lot for your guidance 🙂

    March 13, 2014 at 6:20 pm #162298
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    March 14, 2014 at 6:57 pm #162377
    cara12
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    Hello

    Could you tell me why is negative goodwill credited to retained earnings please?

    Thank you.

    March 14, 2014 at 7:45 pm #162381
    MikeLittle
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    Because it’s like a profit. We’ve just spent money, say $100,000 and bought assets with a fair value of, say, $120,000.

    That gives us negative goodwill but surely it’s like a profit?

    Credit cash $100,00 and debit sundry assets (on consolidation) $120,000

    What are you going to do with the missing $20,000 credit? Take it to retained earnings!

    Ok?

    March 15, 2014 at 4:47 pm #162416
    cara12
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    Yes, that’s a very clear e.g. Thank you.

    March 15, 2014 at 5:38 pm #162421
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

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