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Consolidation of Associate – Unrealized profit in the stock

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  • This topic has 11 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • August 30, 2016 at 5:40 pm #336346
    satheesh90
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    Kindly clarify the below question

    126 Jarvis owns 30% of McLintock. During the year to 31 December 20X4 McLintock sold $2 million of goods to Jarvis, of which 40% were still held in inventory by Jarvis at the year end. McLintock applies a mark-up of 25% on all goods sold. What effect would the above transactions have on group inventory at 31 December 20X4?

    A Debit group inventory $48,000
    B Debit group inventory $160,000
    C Credit group inventory $48,000
    D No effect on group inventory

    As per my under understanding the correct answer should be D

    But in the suggested solution in the Revision kit given as follows :

    126 C (($2m × 40%) × 25 / 125) × 30% = $48,000 This adjustment is removing profit from inventory so it is a credit entry.

    Regards

    Satheesh RV

    August 30, 2016 at 5:58 pm #336349
    crashog
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    Sales between associates and parent in a group accounts situation is not adjusted, as would be the case between a parent and a subsidiary. The group inventory however will need adjusting, hence answer C.

    Normally sales between subs and parent get adjusted for sales, cost of sales, PURP and inventory (if items remain in inventory). For the parent and associate scenario the sales figure, purp and cost of sales normally would not be affected as an associate is considered to be outside of the group. Inventory however is always adjusted.

    August 30, 2016 at 6:30 pm #336359
    MikeLittle
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    Crashog! Is this question addressed to you? I thought that I was the tutor of the F7 Ask ACCA Tutor page!

    If you really want to help others may I suggest that your input is welcome on the open forum for F7 and please leave this one for me to answer. Thanks

    August 30, 2016 at 6:35 pm #336360
    MikeLittle
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    Satheesh, have you watched the video lectures on this site?

    The adjustment for pups when dealing with associates is clearly explained

    There is NO cancellation of revenue and cost of sales because the associate is not a group entity

    First, calculate the pup

    In your example it’s 40% of $2,000,000 = $800,000 x 25/125 mark up = $160,000

    This is adjusted by reducing the associate’s retained earnings and the resultant reduced earnings are the basis of the calculation ‘H’s share of A’s post-acquisition retained earnings’ so that figure will fall by 30% of $160,000 = $48,000

    The effect of this adjustment is a reduction in the consolidated retained earnings (debit $48,000) and a reduction in the figure ‘Investment in Associate’ (credit $48,000)

    OK?

    August 30, 2016 at 8:02 pm #336377
    satheesh90
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    Correct .. that I understand.. But in the question it is asked what is the effect of this trxn on GROUP INVENTORY ?

    Sir, As we are not combining the inventories of Parent & Associate, I do not understand the logic of deducting the unrealized profit from Group’s inventory.

    August 30, 2016 at 8:41 pm #336383
    MikeLittle
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    The problem is, where DO you deduct the $48,000

    My entry that says reduce (debit) consolidated retained earnings effectively hides the issue

    To reduce retained earnings you either have to increase the expenses (eg cost of sales) or you have to reduce the incomes

    The only place for such an adjustment to be included is as an addition to cost of sales thus reducing gross profit

    But where in cost of sales? There’s only one place available and that is as a deduction from the closing inventory – cost of sales increase and retained earnings decrease

    A bit better?

    August 30, 2016 at 8:59 pm #336389
    satheesh90
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    ohhhh.. Surely… Got it .. But in text also I thing Hides this point

    Thanks A lot .. It is now very much clear

    August 31, 2016 at 7:28 am #336467
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    November 13, 2016 at 3:57 am #348664
    shahrilsukri
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    can i ask.

    how do you get the 125 from?

    “In your example it’s 40% of $2,000,000 = $800,000 x 25/125 mark up = $160,000”

    November 13, 2016 at 8:23 am #348677
    MikeLittle
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    This is an F3 question!

    The question tells us that “McLintock applies a mark-up of 25% on all goods sold”

    Mark up is a profit percentage based on cost and …

    … cost + profit = selling price

    So if mark up percentage is 25 and cost is 100, then …

    … 100 + 25 = 125

    Therefore the profit element of $125 sales value is 25/125

    This is clearly explained in John Moffat’s F3 lectures and again in the F7 notes and lectures

    OK?

    February 26, 2017 at 5:51 am #374253
    thuygiang1007
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    Hi Mr ,

    For unrealised profit of sales between Associate and parent, i supposed it does not affect inventory. For this case, the treatment is:

    DR group retained earning 48,000
    CR Investment in associate 48,000

    If we CR inventory 48,000, then will this make the Balance sheet un balanced? Because now, all Group retained earning, investment in associate, inventory are reduced by 48,000z.

    Many thanks

    February 26, 2017 at 8:44 am #374277
    MikeLittle
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    “If we CR inventory 48,000, then will this make the Balance sheet un balanced? Because now, all Group retained earning, investment in associate, inventory are reduced by 48,000″

    Inventory is a strange animal

    In those days long gone when I used to teach double entry bookkeeping to fresh faced students on their first day of a course, it was one of my favourite quotations to say”Stock (ie inventory) is its own double entry” much to their consternation!

    When you increase the value of closing inventory, that has the affect of decreasing cost of sales and that, in turn, leads to an increase in profits

    But if you increase closing inventory like that, then the same figure in current assets on the statement of financial position also increases.

    That means that for every $ increase in closing inventory reducing cost of sales and increasing profits, the current assets increase by the same $

    In the example that started this thread, the elimination of a pup arising from a transaction with an associate reduces the associate’s retained earnings (in the associate’s records inventory will decrease, therefore cost of sales will increase and profits will decrease)

    That reduction in the retained earnings of the associate itself has a dual effect:

    Our share of the associate’s retained earnings will fall by the amount of our percentage holding as applied to the pup

    Additionally, our share of those retained earnings of the associate – a figure that we use in working W5A to calculate the Investment in Associate for the statement of financial position – will fall by the same amount

    The real issue is … should the credit go against group inventory or against the Investment in Associate

    BPP and Kaplan take it to group inventory

    The way I deal with it (and it’s much quicker and easier) is to take the entire pup off the associate’s profits and then take out percentage share of those reduced profits.

    That has the effect of automatically eliminating the group’s share of that pup that arose from a trade with an associate

    OK?

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