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  • August 28, 2016 at 3:03 pm #335785
    thaohuyen67
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    Hi teacher,
    I have 2 questions that takes from BPP revision kit.
    1. On 1 July 20×7, Spider acquired 60% of the equity share capital of Fly and on that date made a 10mil loan to fly at a rate of 8% per annum.
    what will be the effect on group RE at year end 31/12/x7 when intragroup transaction is cancelled?
    My answer is : interest =10mil*0.08=400000
    so group RE will be reduced by 400000*0.6=240000 but their answer is 160000. I don’t understand it.
    2. A acquired 80% of B on 1/1/x8 . at that date of acquisition B had a building which had a fair value 22mil and CV of 20mil . The remaining useful life was 20 years . at the year end of 30/6/x8 the FV of the building was 23mil.
    B’s profit for year end 30/6/x8 was 1.6mil
    A measures NCI at FV. At 30/6/x8 it estimated that goodwill in B was impaired by 500000$.
    What is total CI attribute to NCI at 30/6/x8?
    My answer is: RE = 1.6*6/12-0.05(dep)-0.5(impairment)=0.25
    RR=(22-20)+(23-22)=3
    so total CI is 3.25 => % NCI =0.65
    But my answer is wrong. Their answer is 0.25. Could you revise it for me?
    Thank you in advance 🙂

    August 28, 2016 at 5:23 pm #335821
    MikeLittle
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    Q1 – are you 100% sure that this is the question? ‘what will be the effect on group RE at year end 31/12/x7 when intragroup transaction is cancelled?’

    And their answer is 160,000 – is that an increase or a decrease in the group retained earnings?

    Surely their answer tells you how they have arrived at $160,000

    Q2 –

    $1000,000 post acquisition increase in building valuation
    ($50,000 post acquisition depreciation on first fair value adjustment)
    $800,000 six months’ profits
    ($500,000 goodwill impairment)

    $1,250,000 total x 20% = $250,000

    August 29, 2016 at 2:00 pm #336024
    thaohuyen67
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    Sorry as it don’t clearly.
    Q1: their answer is Group RE will be reduced 160000
    their calculation: interest =10mil*0.08=400000
    saving of interest is 400000*0.6=240000
    s0 reduced in group RE 160000
    But
    I think group RE will be reduced by 400000*0.6=240000 🙁
    Q2: the revaluation in building is 1000000, not 3000000?
    am I wrong to calculate RR=(22-20)+(23-22)=3?

    August 29, 2016 at 5:00 pm #336052
    MikeLittle
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    Q1 I see this as an increase in the consolidated retained earnings!

    Imagine P and S with $7,000,000 and $3,000,000 relevant profits before interest

    After the $400,000 is put through, we have P $7,400,000 and S $2,600,000 so consolidated profits will be $7,400,000 + 60% x $2,600,000 = $8,960,000

    IF that $400,000 had not been relevant and therefore would not have appeared neither in S as an expense nor in P as an income, the consolidated retained earnings would have been $7,000,000 + 60% x $3,000,000 = $8,800,000

    So by putting through the intra-group loan interest transaction the consolidated retained earnings have increased from $8,800,000 to $8,960,000

    UNLESS (using my figures) the $7,000,000 and the $3,000,000 are stated AFTER the loan interest has been accounted for and the question is asking you to cancel the income of $400,000 against the expense of $400,000 bringing the retained earnings down to $6,600,000 and $3,400,000 respectively

    That would then give us consolidated retained earnings of $6,600,000 + 60% x $3,400,000 = $8,640,000

    But that’s not what we do when cancelling intra-group transactions so it’s a silly question (as well as being so vague that I can’t tell what’s happening)

    Q2 ‘am I wrong to calculate RR=(22-20)+(23-22)=3?’

    Yes – we’re only interested in POST-acquisition movements

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