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Consolidated financial statements

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  • This topic has 22 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by gabriell.
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  • August 19, 2014 at 1:38 pm #191504
    alwaleed
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    Is there any double-entry bookkeeping involved in the preparation of consolidated financial statements?

    August 19, 2014 at 1:57 pm #191506
    John Moffat
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    Not as far as the exam is concerned – no 🙂

    August 19, 2014 at 9:28 pm #191565
    alwaleed
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    Thanks, but what about real life?

    August 20, 2014 at 6:38 am #191592
    John Moffat
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    There is no need for double entry in real life either.

    The individual companies would obviously keep their own accounting records as usual.

    There are no accounting records for the group.

    Some people use t-accounts when they do the workings for the consolidation, but they are only workings (they are not proper double-entry records).

    August 20, 2014 at 8:04 pm #191713
    alwaleed
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    Many thanks!

    August 20, 2014 at 10:47 pm #191728
    John Moffat
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    You are very welcome 🙂

    September 8, 2014 at 7:58 pm #194368
    gabriell
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    John

    Ann aquired 450000 of 500000 $ share of john..
    When we calculate goodvill
    In answer
    500000 was deducted , but only 450000 share was acquired

    September 9, 2014 at 7:16 am #194390
    John Moffat
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    What percentage was acquired is not relevant.

    The goodwill is the total ‘worth’ of the subsidiary at the date of acquisition less the total book value of the subsidiary at the date of acquisition.

    The total ‘worth’ is whatever the parent paid for their share plus the fair value of the NCI.

    The total book value is the total share capital + total reserves.

    September 9, 2014 at 6:35 pm #194451
    gabriell
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    Thanks but one more qws please

    Ann com acquired 80 % of all share capital of beta co on 1 january. 1 january 2001.on 1 january the fair value of beta co net teangible assets are 450000 .at 31 dec 2001 the fair value of net tang assets of beta co are 600000.

    My qws is why we use 450000 not 600000 while calculating goodwill.

    September 9, 2014 at 8:10 pm #194460
    John Moffat
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    It is because we are calculating the goodwill at the date of acquisition. So it is only the value of the assets at the fat of acquisition that are relevant.

    September 12, 2014 at 12:06 pm #194742
    gabriell
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    Sir, hi 🙂

    There is mock exam here.
    It was written in qws.
    The balance on current account beetween Ann and ben was 53000. Asks for reseivables. In answer reseivables of ann and ben added and deducted 53000. My qws is y 53000 deducted?

    September 12, 2014 at 12:09 pm #194743
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    Pleasee, answer this one also

    In qws asks for Consolidated cogs
    2 companies cogs added – intragroup cogs-unrealised profit
    Why unrealised profit is deducted?
    Reason?

    September 12, 2014 at 12:33 pm #194748
    gabriell
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    Patience co has a subsidiry. Ben co.during 2001ben sold goods to patience for 40000 which was cost plus 25 %. At 31 december 2001 20000 of these goods remained unsold..
    What will profit be reduced by in the consolidated income sta.
    Answer 4000

    September 12, 2014 at 1:25 pm #194757
    John Moffat
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    First question:

    I assume it is a consolidation question!
    We only want to show receivables and payables from/to outside the group. So amounts owing between the two companies are removed from total receivables and removed from total payables.

    September 12, 2014 at 1:27 pm #194759
    John Moffat
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    Second question:

    In the consolidated accounts we only show profit made on sales outside the group. Any goods left in inventory that were sold from one company to the other contain a profit element than must be removed from the profit (and from the value of the inventory on the Statement of financial position). It is the PURP.

    September 12, 2014 at 1:30 pm #194760
    gabriell
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    Oh, understand. Ok please answer remain qws.s

    September 12, 2014 at 1:31 pm #194761
    John Moffat
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    Third question:

    The answer is the same as the answer to your second question.
    The profit element in the selling price of 20,000 is 4,000. This is the PURP that must be removed.

    I assume that you have studied consolidations – either in a text book or by watching the free lectures on consolidations??
    Because these are very standard adjustments!

    September 12, 2014 at 1:32 pm #194763
    John Moffat
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    Why on earth must 20,000 be removed???

    20,000 is the selling price – it is the profit that we need to remove.

    September 12, 2014 at 1:33 pm #194764
    gabriell
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    How did u come to4000????

    September 12, 2014 at 1:43 pm #194771
    John Moffat
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    Because 20000 is cost plus 25%.
    So the profit must be 25/125 x 20000 = 4000

    September 12, 2014 at 1:46 pm #194772
    gabriell
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    This is very diffucult for me to understand. Cost plus 25%. It is mark up then.

    September 12, 2014 at 1:56 pm #194773
    John Moffat
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    Yes. The profit is 25% of cost.

    You did not answer my question. Where are you studying from – a Study Text or by watching the lectures?

    September 12, 2014 at 2:06 pm #194775
    gabriell
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