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Confusing answers.

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  • January 15, 2015 at 6:11 am #222669
    Hong
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    Hello sir,
    I am confusing with following questions can you help me on this?
    1. Are the answer for the following two question same?
    i. Describe the factors to consider and steps Brown & Co should take, prior to placing reliance on the work of the independent expert, in order to confirm raw material quantities.
    ( ref: Dec 2013 Q5b)

    ii. Explain the factors Puffin & Co should consider when placing reliance on the work of the independent valuer.
    (ref: Dec 2014 Q6a)

    Note: By refer to ACCA suggested answers for question (i) they used ISA 620 Using the Work of an Auditor’s Expert to answered the question but for question (ii) they used ISA 500 Audit Evidence.

    I am wrong if I using ISA 620 Using the Work of an Auditor’s Expert to answered question (ii) ? Will I gain some marks? I am Dec 2014 sitting.

    2. This is regarding audit risk’s question.
    Eagle has experienced increased competition and as a result, in order to maintain its current levels of sales, it has decreased the selling price of its products significantly since September 2014. (ref: Dec 2014 Q2)

    Following are my answer.
    Audit Risk: As Eagle has experienced increased competition, there is a risk that management might feel under pressure to manipulate the results through the judgments taken or though the use of provision.

    Audit Response: Throughout the audit, the team will need to be alert to this risk and maintain professional scepticism. They will need to carefully review judgmental decision and compare treatment against prior year. In addition, a written representation should be obtained from management confirming the basis of any significant judgments.

    Note: ACCA suggested answers link this point to going concern difficulties.

    Audit Risk: In order to maintain its current levels of sales, it has decreased the selling price of its products significantly since September 2014. IAS 2 inventories request inventories should be valued at the lower of cost or NRV. As NRV is estimated selling price minus cost to sell and complete. As Eagle decresed the selling price, the NRV may be lower than the cost. If management do not adjust inventories to the lower of cost or NRV, inventories could be overvalued.

    Audit Response: Detailed cost and NRV testing to be performed and the aged inventory report to be reviewed to assess whether inventory requires writing down.

    Audit Risk: Surprised to see a significant fall in administration expenses.There is a risk that administration expense may have been omitted or included in other classes of expenses rather than administration expenses.

    Audit Response: The classification between expenses will be compared with the prior tear to ensure consistency.

    Thank you for takes your time!

    January 15, 2015 at 6:32 pm #222752
    Ken Garrett
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    !

    I’ve looked just now and there are no answers currently for Dec 2014. Dec 2013 uses ISA 620. Until the answers to Dec 2014 reappear I can’t comment further, but I woulf have thought that 620 wa the correct reference. (Perhaps they are being corrected!)

    2 Your points are fine but leave out the possible significance of the eresignation of the financial controller. You also need to mention the lack of supplier statement reconciliations. Generally any bit of detail given in the question requires a response.

    January 16, 2015 at 2:05 am #222772
    Hong
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    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/f8/exampapers/uk/F8_Ans.pdf

    Sir here the link for F8 Dec 2014 answer!

    January 16, 2015 at 8:45 am #222789
    Ken Garrett
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    Thank you.

    The difference is bacause of a distinction being made between management’s expert and auditor’s experts The ISAs are different but the procedures (eg ensuring professinally qualified) are more or less the same.

    ISA 500 deals with relying on management’s expert and that is correct for Dec 2014. ISA 620 relates to relying on the auditor’s expert.

    With regard to Dec 2013, it is not clear whose expert was being relied on as it just says ‘we relied on the work undertaken by an indepemdemt expert’. ACCA have assumed that this is the auditor’s expert.

    January 16, 2015 at 8:51 am #222791
    Hong
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    That the point!
    So will I be mark wrong if I used IAS620 for Dec 2014?

    Thank you very much.

    January 16, 2015 at 3:14 pm #222832
    Ken Garrett
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    No. You are given no marks for mentining an ISA, so I don’t think they can remove any for mentioing the wrong one!.

    You would have said lots of correct things eg about ensuring proper qualification, independence etc

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