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Coeden Co (12/12)

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  • This topic has 18 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 4 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • April 29, 2015 at 5:11 pm #243263
    jason91
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    Good day,

    I am having trouble with the calculation of the Asset beta for hotel services in part @ of the question. The answer as per BPP Kit is 0.75.

    Could you kindly explain to me how this figure was calculated?

    Regards,
    Gary

    April 29, 2015 at 6:04 pm #243273
    John Moffat
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    BPP has the same answer as the examiner (because they copy his answer 🙂 )

    When two types of business with different betas are combined together, then the overall beta is the weighted average of the individual betas of the two types of business (weighting by the values that are given in the question – 60% and 40%)

    In this question, we know the overall beta and we know the beta for property companies, and so we can work backwards to arrive at the beta for hotel services.

    It will help you to watch our free lectures on CAPM.

    April 30, 2015 at 1:43 am #243315
    jason91
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    Can you kindly show me how the calculations are done to arrive at the beta for hotel services?

    Thanks very much.

    April 30, 2015 at 7:46 am #243348
    John Moffat
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    Have you watched the free lecture where I go through examples of weighting the betas?

    60% is hotels and 40% is property (with beta of 0.4)

    So the overall beta is (60% x hotel beta) + (40% x 0.4)
    We know the overall beta is 0.61

    So…..(0.6 x hotel beta ) + 0.16 = 0.61

    (0.6 x hotel beta) = 0.45

    Hotel beta = 0.45/0.6 = 0.75

    May 1, 2015 at 3:07 pm #243520
    trangtubin
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    Dear Mr. John,

    The principle of weighted average beta of sub-businesses is only applied for ASSET BETA ? NOT for EQUITY BETA ?

    because equity beta taken into account capital structure, which we can not reasonably assume weighted average rule between sub-businesses apply here?

    May 1, 2015 at 3:39 pm #243523
    jason91
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    Well when you simplify it like that it begins to make sense..lol

    Thank you!!

    Regards,
    Gary

    May 1, 2015 at 6:47 pm #243565
    John Moffat
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    You are very welcome 🙂
    I am pleased that it now makes sense 🙂

    May 1, 2015 at 6:49 pm #243566
    John Moffat
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    Trangtubin: the idea of taking a weighted average always applies. However you can only apply it to equity betas provided that the gearing remains the same (because – as you will be aware – equity betas are always higher than asset betas because of the gearing creating more risk.)

    May 2, 2015 at 12:58 am #243585
    trangtubin
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    gearing is often change in practice. Thanks you Mr. John for your helps 🙂

    May 2, 2015 at 8:16 am #243610
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    December 6, 2016 at 6:31 am #354375
    nadd
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    Sir, for the calculation of market value of debt

    Is it the correct if present my answer as below?

    For year 1-3 cash flow 5.2

    For year 3 cash flow 100

    The examiner use year 1-2 cash flow 5.2, year 3 cash flow 105.2

    December 6, 2016 at 7:41 am #354403
    John Moffat
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    That is fine – the answer will be exactly the same and it doesn’t matter how you present it.

    December 6, 2016 at 7:57 am #354413
    nadd
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    Thank you so much sir!

    Wish me luck for my p4 exam this friday! ??

    Is there any tips? ??

    December 6, 2016 at 7:57 am #354414
    nadd
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    🙂 🙂

    December 6, 2016 at 3:28 pm #354513
    John Moffat
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    I do wish you the best of luck 🙂

    With regard to tips, we don’t guess any longer but someone has posted the guesses of other tuition providers: https://opentuition.com/topic/acca-december-exam-tips/

    December 6, 2016 at 5:41 pm #354627
    nadd
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    Thank you so much sir! 🙂

    December 7, 2016 at 6:32 am #354846
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    December 16, 2020 at 8:32 pm #600149
    Anonymous
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    Hello,

    Could i please clarify:

    1) why equity beta is assumed to be same before and after implementation of the proposal
    2) why cost of debt doesn’t take into account corporation tax

    Thank you!

    December 17, 2020 at 8:55 am #600170
    John Moffat
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    1. The equity beta is not assumed to stay the same. It is currently 1.1 and falls to 0.93 after implementation of the proposal.

    2. The cost of debt does take tax into account. In the calculation of the WACC it is multiplied by 0.8 to take account of the tax of 20%. (When calculating the market value of the debt, tax is irrelevant because it is the investors who determine the market value and they are not affect by corporation tax.)

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