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closing inventory

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  • This topic has 14 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • May 27, 2016 at 3:12 am #317382
    raahulshah
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    i got this question from the revsion mock test in this site i cant copy paste the question so i would just write a bit

    at what value will the closing inventory of algis be reported in its statement of financial position At 30 april 2014 and the answer is 1460000 and i am getting 1437600..how ?

    May 27, 2016 at 3:33 am #317383
    raahulshah
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    let me write the whole question
    at the end of the year the closing inventory was valued at cost of 1.46m and goods costing 140000 were damaged and their normal selling price is achieved by adding 30% markup on cost ..an agent will sell this goods at 75% of normal selling price and will charge a commission of 20%.. what is the value of closing inventory ??

    May 27, 2016 at 5:46 am #317392
    MikeLittle
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    It cannot possibly be the answer that you say is noted – if we start with 1,460,000 and we have this damaged inventory, we surely cannot finish with 1,460,000

    140,000 at normal selling price will be 182,000 (140,000 x 130%)

    75% of normal selling price is 136,500

    Commission is 27,300 (20% x 136,500)

    Net realisable value will be 109,200 for that 140,000 worth of inventory

    But the remainder of the inventory (1,460,000 – 140,000) is correctly valued and is 1,320,000

    That, together with the written down inventory, gives a total value of 1,320,000 + 109,200 = 1,429,200

    Now, if you had written out the question correctly, you would have typed “achieved by adding 40% markup on cost ..” instead of what you have typed “achieved by adding 30% markup on cost”

    So, applying the correct percentage, we arrive at:

    140,000 at normal selling price will be 196,000 (140,000 x 140%)

    75% of normal selling price is 147,000

    Commission is 29,400 (20% x 147,000)

    Net realisable value will be 117,600 for that 140,000 worth of inventory

    But the remainder of the inventory (1,460,000 – 140,000) is correctly valued and is 1,320,000

    That, together with the written down inventory, gives a total value of 1,320,000 + 117,600 = 1,437,600

    IF you’re correct in recording the printed answer as being 1,460,000, then it’s my mistake and I agree with you that the answer should be 1,437,600

    May 27, 2016 at 11:36 am #317466
    raahulshah
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    Oh certainly it would have been my typing mistake of that 30% ..and if it would have been achieved by adding 40% margin then we will convert into markup and that would be multiplying with 40/140 ??

    May 27, 2016 at 12:16 pm #317482
    MikeLittle
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    So does that mean that you’re ok now?

    May 27, 2016 at 12:21 pm #317484
    raahulshah
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    Yeah I am okay.. But I had another question that if it was written that normal selling price is achieved by adding margin of 40% so we will multiply the cost of 140000 with 40/140 and the amount will be 180000 .. Right? ?

    May 27, 2016 at 2:34 pm #317508
    MikeLittle
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    No

    If we’re looking for a 40% margin, then the cost of the goods (140,000) must be 60% of the selling price

    That would give us 93,333 as the profit and a sales price of 233,333

    and , of course, 93,333 is 40% of the selling price (40% x 233,333 = 93,333)

    OK?

    If you’re talking about mark up, then that would be 40% of 140,000 = 56,000 and a selling price of 196,000

    May 27, 2016 at 4:40 pm #317533
    raahulshah
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    Oh yes
    As margin = markup/100 + markup

    And markup = margin /100- margin

    Ryt??

    May 28, 2016 at 8:36 am #317661
    MikeLittle
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    “Oh yes
    As margin = markup/100 + markup

    And markup = margin /100- margin

    Ryt??”

    WHAT?????

    Margin is a percentage based on selling price

    Mark-up is a percentage based on cost

    I cannot make head nor tale out of your comments (and that’s a really good reason why you shouldn’t get involved with answering questions on Ask the Tutor!)

    May 28, 2016 at 10:59 am #317688
    raahulshah
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    margin = markup/100 + markup

    And markup = margin /100- margin

    i meant that this is the formula if u want to convert a markup percentage into a margin and vice versa..

    May 28, 2016 at 11:20 am #317694
    MikeLittle
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    So what you’re saying is that a mark-up percentage of 25% converts like this ….

    25/100 + 25 = margin

    Is that right?

    So margin is 25.25?

    Or is it 25/(100 + 25)

    So margin is 1/5

    WHY??

    Why are you bothering trying to remember this?

    What’s the problem with “cost + profit = selling price”, putting the percentage in the middle, putting the 100 appropriately and getting the answer

    Do you think that you’re ever going to be asked to convert margin into mark-up?

    Ever?

    May 28, 2016 at 11:47 am #317700
    raahulshah
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    Or is it 25/(100 + 25)
    so margin is 1/5

    this one i was talking about ..

    the problem in “cost + profit = selling price” is sometimes i make mistake when it says margin on cost so its better i convert into markup as markup is always on cost and margin is always on selling price..

    May 28, 2016 at 12:02 pm #317707
    MikeLittle
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    “margin on cost”

    I can’t remember ever, ever, ever reading “margin on cost”

    Never

    May 28, 2016 at 12:25 pm #317716
    raahulshah
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    sorry i meant that

    in a question when its given that the firm achieves the normal selling price by adding a margin of xx% and the cost is given..so we cant apply margin on cost to find profit so will have to convert into markup and then apply ..i meant that 🙂

    May 28, 2016 at 12:27 pm #317718
    MikeLittle
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    Again – I have absolutely no recollection of this expression ever being used

    Tell me the name of the question where you have seen / read this, please

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