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Cash flows:Bpp study text(aug2016) Dundee question

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by busybeestudying.
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  • October 16, 2016 at 8:19 am #343396
    busybeestudying
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    Good Morning Mike,

    This example is from bpp study text ( expires on Aug 2016) page427 Dundee Q.30

    Cash flow question.

    In spl, there is FINANCE COST (250)

    in further information section: it says
    There was no accrual of interest at the beginning or at the end of the year.

    It s contradictory information. How do we treat this finance cost in this scenario.

    There are no loans in the question.
    Only finance lease liabilities current and non current.

    I included finance cost as interest expense paid in cash flows as it looked like an interest expense to me.

    In the solution, they have included
    interest expense +250 in operating activities
    interest paid (250) in operating activities.

    I am so confused over this. do we have to ignore what is given in the further information section and decide looking what is given in SPL.

    Thank you in advance.

    October 23, 2016 at 1:51 pm #345696
    vapiano91
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    hi !

    i will try to answer your question (since this is a general forum 🙂 ) and give you a simple strategy to tackle finance cost.

    remember the word “cash”flow. so basically you are looking at items that have led to actual flow of cash during the year and ADJUSTING items where CASH is not flowing IN/OUT).

    when you see the question, in the P/L you see finance cost as 450. This is the total payable in this year.

    Now, generally if there is corresponding fin cost in liabilities section in the ‘balance sheet’ say something like O/S Interest etc it means that you will have to adjust the figure of profit and loss to find the ACTUAL CASH PAID in respect of finance costs.

    If however there is no opening or closing balance in the BALANCE SHEET, we assume that this finance cos was paid in cash this year itself. So we deduct it later.

    Let me explain numerically:

    In the dundee question,
    if you see the balance sheet (i have the aug 2017 expiry book . but im assuming the question will not have changed) there is NO liability of finance cost in balance sheet.
    So 450 is infact the cash flow.

    But say for example, if there was an item like
    2007 2006

    Interest payable 500 250

    then your calculation would be
    1) add the finance cost in operating cash flow EXACTLY AS given in P/L

    2) make a small working like so

    opening 250
    charge 450
    closing (500)

    finance cost CASH paid= 200
    THIS 200 would be subtracted from the CASHFLOW operating statement.

    Hope this helps !!

    October 24, 2016 at 8:51 am #345782
    MikeLittle
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    Thanks Vapiano – I have already answered this question in the Ask ACCA Tutor forum!

    Clearly Kamaljeet gill was not happy with my response 🙁

    October 29, 2016 at 11:48 pm #346598
    busybeestudying
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    Thanks Vapiano and Mike.
    Really appreciate your explanation.

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